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Old 05.12.2008, 04:48 PM   #150
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i'm not talking about judging, i'm talking about a political orientation. it seems to me that you prefer an authoritarian state making decisions for its citizens because they are too feeble-minded to know what's best for them.

while certainly we need some sort of social contract in order to live together without murdering each other, i do not believe that this has to include regulation of a person's private life and affairs. i tend to believe that the less government intervention we get the better off we are.

i'm not here to defend pot, by the way-- i think it's a drug that when consumed in excess invites stupidity- just like alcohol invites stupidity-- just like tobacco invites cancer. what i'm arguing against is your contention that people are not mature enough and need a government nanny to control them.

perhaps the most obvious flaw in your argument is the fact that governments are made of people, so when those people's immaturity and incompetence express themselves through government action the imbecility is magnified in the order of millions, and then who can stop them?

yes, some people are smarter than others and some people are more mature than others, but we cannot sacrifice liberty in the altar of authoritarianism just because some people are stupid, can we? if you believe that, then you might find a happy life in china, north korea, or myanmar.

Don't misquote/exaggerate what I say please. Maybe I don't express it correctly. i live in a country of freedom and I'm happy to have all my liberties/rights...
I don't mean government have to control, drive your life. But do you think laws are useless ? I hope no. To live together, you have to do concessions, to keep your liberty and to not disturb people liberty. If you don't want to do concession, you could also live on a desert island. Concession doesn't mean sacrifice. Are you agree ?
Concerning the fact taht government are made of people, I think it's what we call "Democracy". We don't have a better way to rule the world for the moment.
I don't mean all the people are stupid and need someone else to tell them what to do. But thery 're not equal at the hands of drugs. And some of them need to be informed, educated,... And I think you forgot there are kids on earth.
I wonder what you think about kids who take drugs. Don't you think we have to preserve them from that shit ? Believe me, there are more and more young kids (11-12 years) who start smoking pot in my country. Because their parents have renounced to educate them. Do you guess who is asked to fix the problem ? I will not explain why they 've renounced, it'd be too long.
I think we're not living on a perfect world where all the people are responsible, matured, self-righteous... Maybe it's because I'm french and cartesian. But it doesn't mean I want it to be ruled like in China...
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