ps- and yes what "real" is-- is what i was questioning in part 2 of my response, the whole "time is irrelevant" thing because if we can't access reality via perception, can we speak of "reality" at all as if it's something we actually know? because when suchfriends says "we can't know" he implies a posible "knowing". me on the other hand, i plead total ignorance.
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