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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i do believe we're trapped in memory -- everything we do requires it. even to just type this i have to remember proper wording and spelling and all that bullshit to properly communicate my ideas.

yes but that's only 1 type of consciousness.

the pandemonium model of the brain however postulate competition between many types of input/proceses. we are perfectly capable of preverbal/mammal/reptilian consciousness.

put your hand on a flame if you don't believe me. before you even think the pain is there.

idealists like suchfriends put too much emphasis on the "i" which they equate with "spirit" and forget the body.