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Old 08.21.2007, 04:14 PM   #25
NWRA
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Originally Posted by king_buzzo
new hip hop rap, whatsoever, yes.

old, no.

MBV covered Public Enemy.

Public Enemy rules.

Public Enemy sampled a drum loop for an interlude on It Takes A Nation... My Bloody Valentine used that same drum loop on Instrumental B (and added lots of ethereal atmospherics). Madonna also used that same drum loop on Justify My Love.

That drum loop didn't originate from Public Enemy (though they 'discovered' it). And besides, using your logic, Justify My Love would also be a Public Enemy cover.

I like lots of hiphop. I own most of the 'classics' (I love Original Gangster, Strictly 4 My Niggaz, Fear Of A Black Planet, Low End Theory, 36 Chambers, Moment Of Truth, etc). But I've come to the conclusion that, at the moment, the genre is mostly infantile horseshit.

A typical mainstream song will consist of an odious idiot bragging about how hard he is and how big his penis is over a simplistic, repetitive beat. True, Rakim only had one subject: 'I'm the greatest', but at least he tried to say he was the greatest in as imaginative or witty way as possible.

I particularly dislike 'conscious' hiphop. As far as I can tell, a typical 'conscious' song will consist of an odious idiot bragging about how intelligent and conscious he is over a boring jazz/soul sample (without ever saying anything that is intelligent - simply stating that he is 'intelligent' ad nausea).

Hiphop gets away with it too often. Recently (sorry for this British example), Bloc Party criticised Oasis for their dumb lyrics. Yet they love Lethal Bizzle, a rapper whose latest album flaunts every negative Black stereotype: violent ('I'll put your face through glass!', 'shoot it! shoot it!'), misogynistic ('Treat them like dirt, don't care if they get hurt!') and full of criminality. I suppose its ok if Black people use lyrics like these because they don't know any better eh?
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