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this whole irony issue is so annoying. Someone says they like Paris Hilton, Avril Lavigne, Libertines, whatever and it's immediately assumed they're being 'ironic' and that they only REALLY like them in a 'so bad they're good' kind of way. It's actually possible to find great pleasure in listening to them while still recognising their obvious shortcomings.
Besides, i'd certainly say that someone like Avril Lavigne is FAR better at what she does, than a band like, say, Blonde Redhead are at what THEY do.
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