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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Ironically I feel the opposite way, the only true voice people have is in local and state elections for actual propositions and ballot measures, in other words voting for actual policy, voting for representatives is just the same old song and dance. So personally i think people should ONLY vote for propositions and ballot measures or at the least turn out for such IF they agree with or believe in what is on the ballot.
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That's not the opposite of what I'm saying.
Well, saying people should ONLY vote for propositions and ballot measures is close to the opposite of what I'm saying, but it's not the opposite.
I'm saying: there's always a prop or a local judicial election that I don't know the first thing about. Usually I know about props and vote accordingly, but if I don't know about these two dudes vying for a circuit court judge position, I'm going to leave that bubble blank.
I'm not going to weigh in on the election of someone who may someday — heaven forbid — be in charge of deciding my fate in court. What if I just vote for the dude whose name is the funniest sounding and he ends up being a fascist fuck who sends me to jail for some outstanding parking ticket?
That's what I'm saying. I'm not throwing in on something I don't know anything about, because if I don't know anything about it, how do I know I'm voting the way I'd want to vote if I did know about it? Granted this is only a problem if I don't pay attention to certain things, but Ive lived in HIGHLY populated urban areas before where you can't possibly know every goddamn candidate for comptroller or alderman.
To say you should ONLY vote for the local stuff though? Well... like I said, that's not technically the OPPOSITE of what I was saying, but I certainly don't agree with that at all. I do not feel that nobody should vote for legislators, reps, Presidents. I don't think you feel that way either, but when you say people should ONLY vote local, it kind of sounds like you're saying that.
Anyway, I more or less agree with what you're saying, which is that it's important to vote for the local issues, props, measures that you feel strongly about, and that affect you. I agree. And that's what I do. But I also think that people should become educated about presidential candidates and vote in those elections as well. Unless they're idiots. Or unless they're voting for absurd reasons (not liking the way Mcaine holds his arm or whatever).
I think that if you dislike Donald Trump and think he's dangerous and scary, you should fucking vote against his ass. You should do what you can. If Hillary terrifies you that deeply after thoroughly researching her platform, then vote against her. If someone inspires you, vote FOR that person. But if you hate Trump and don't want to see him become president, but you can't bring yourself to stand in line for 15 minutes to help keep him from becoming president, then my personal feeling is that you need to pull your head out of your ass and stop waiting for some Prince to come sweep you off your feet.
It is not a candidates job to sweet talk a citizen into getting off their ass and voting. This isn't a goddamn courtship. It's a (good) cabdidate's job to push for a platform that will change people's lives for the better. I don't think we as citizens are supposed to be wooed by candidates. We're supposed to consider what candidate is best for the country based on our own ideas of what progress is.
Long story short, it's your job to vote if you care. It's not Hillary's job to lure you out of the house.
There are so many things wrong with everything about our lives, it's unreal.