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Old 09.29.2012, 07:23 PM   #157
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Originally Posted by fugazifan
I was not being negative towards you, at least i wasn't trying to be.

regardless of lack of unity it is still a women's issue because women have to go through it and the pregnancy not men. and women will continue to go through it whether it is legal, illegal regulated or not. the question is whether it will be in a hospital or an alley with a coat hanger, the latter sounding a lot uglier than anything that happens in a hospital.

and i am not saying that every unwanted pregnancy should end in a pregnancy, but i think the way to make that happen is, for starters, some of the things that i listed above. if there isn't any kind of support, both community and monetary, for young women going through a pregnancy and afterwards, then how can one even begin to ask them to raise a child?


No,it takes two people to create life, a man and a woman, period. When we divorce men from the process, we actually further alienate and endanger women then we do empowering them. In California we have a lovely legal system where men are held legally and financially responsible for their children, even if a one night stand, all it takes is a DNA match, and these dudes can even go to prison if they don't support their children. Its not a perfect system by a long shot, but it is picking up pace and making a difference, I can't tell you how many single mothers I've know who have directly benefited by the courts' sympathy and protection of their children in this regard. I agree with that we need a stronger public support system, but abortion isn't the best bandaid for the meantime if you ask me .

I miss the days when feminism asserted that abortion was a male-driven conspiracy to destroy minorities. After all, if women are so about abortion, than how come over 90% of abortion doctors are men, well above the relative ratio of men to women doctors
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