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Originally Posted by kinnikpasswordforgetter
Telsa makes the same point everytime, last time he used the term 'interesting' this time it was 'tendencies'. But the fact is, that the CIA/Norwegian intelligence had NOTHING to do with Anders decision to go murder people. So there are no tendencies other than in tesla's fantasy world.
The problem is, that posting completely bs things like this is not an attempt to discern the truth, it's an attempt to create a fictional narcissistic narrative for yourself to inhabit, and then kicking sand at anyone that challenges it.
I would never object, no sane person would, if tesla posted links that actually showed that there WAS some sort of state involvement in this. But there wasn't. It's simply bogus to even infer that their might be.
Then tesla discredits himself and starts calling people nazi supporters etc. If he was really serious about anything he posted, he wouldn't do this. But it demonstrates exactly how this is a narcissitic RPG for him. Tesla against the world. When we don't agree that he should post utterly false 'speculations' to fit his own quasi religious view of the world, he lambasts us as 'corporatists' or supporters of the very evil he rails against. It's exactly the same tactics fundamentalist christians use when people object to their false world view no? Project the evil you seek to fight onto those that disagree with you. We must be fans of state surviellance etc.
That's exactly the kind of thing you would say if you wanted to preserve your ideal of yourself as a rugged individualist truth seeker fighting against the common scum who are all in bed with a corrupt system that is robbing you of your rightful glory.
Of course, for someone like Ikara, what tesla does is intolerable, because this is someone who believes that nato invaded Libya for selfless humanitarian reasons, and buys the official party line on Iraq etc.
Oh, and now, i'm a Glenn Beck fan!
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Nato did invade Libya for humanitarian reasons (humanitarianism is not selfless by definition, by the way) as Gadaffi had explicitly promised to massacre the city of Benghazi. The mandate only covers the prevention of genocide, which was what Gadaffi was going to do.
I would ask you what you want the Libyans and the citizens of Syria, Iran etc. to do. If you want the regimes of those countries to change (which im assuming you do) you'd much rather they rose up of their own accord and attempted to resolve the matter without outside military force being involved, right? It worked in Egypt, but what message is being sent if the only dictators who fall are the ones who DONT crush the resistance with lethal force, and the violent oppressive ones get to stay in power? We dont have to mount a full ground invasion of each and every one of these countries, we just have to support the people who want to get rid of the dictators. The UK expelled all Libyan diplomats today as a matter of fact and recognised the resistance movement as the authority, which i think is a good move.