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ni'k · 10.13.2010, 02:36 PM

the thing about getting a next gen, like a ps3 - is that for all the money it costs it'll prob fuckin break on you in 2 or 3 years. at least all the ps2s did.
whereas your old n64 you bought all those years ago is probably still working.

i actually got a ps3 for a while and returned it. was basically disgusted at myself for spending all that money on the thing.

i bough unreal for it and was just like - wtf. this is the same fucking unreal game i played as a demo on my pc around 1999. all these years later i by it and its improved barely one iota. played half life 2 again and portal. then thought - i need a new laptop.

i remember the late 90's and gaming - i was obsessed with it. and i was there when gaming morphed from a nerdy thing to a thing that your average dude did for fun and was not embarrassed by. this happened with the psx - i always hated sony and ps1 for that but to be fair it did have some great games. but that was the time when gaming started to become "cool" and then became like this typical male macho habit. i can still remember how people used to pay fucking money for fifa 2001 or whatever.

in the uk there was this thing on our teletext service on channel 4. don't know if you US people have teletext? anyway it was called digitiser and it was written by hardcore gamers that were into their shit. and i can remember them making the same points that adam is making - about dreamcast being this overlooked gem. they would get quite angry about it and bemoan people for putting another EA sports piece of shit to number 1 in the uk gaming chart.

ps1 was like the punk of consoles, because it opened things up to small cheap developers. but people liked ps1 because of the image and the marketing, because it transitioned gaming from something looked upon as childish and nerdy to something cool that 18 year olds did. whereas i can remember people wondering why nintendo magazines didn't give away free demo cartridges - the answer was because they would have cost like 70quid. ps1 opened up the floodgates to the kind of turgid crap we have today. were games are trying to be films. seriously, can you think of a more embarrassingly adolescent and stupid era for gaming than the 00's? every game seemed to be another fps designed for 13 year old morons who couldn't play something like pikmin or whatever because they are self conciouss and don't want to be seen as the children they are, so they choose some shitty "omg so awesome guns and blood" thing.

i know this is down to marketing and what sells - and i used to overlook this shit because i thought "well - the type of person who makes games is a nerd, a technically minded dude good at mapping pixels in white backrounds. not a creative or artistic in the way a songwriter or novelist or script writer is. but you'd think by now and with all the fucking money put into games they could be coming up with some better shit than they are currently.

now i'm sure there are a load of exceptions, that people who pay more attention to me have been mentioning already. i just got fed up and wasn't interested tbh. gaming will eventually get over these embarrassing ugly years and there will be games in the future that really push us into new frontiers, but so far what we've seen isn't really close.

i mean, its 2010 and what do we have. fps's that aren't as good as goldeneye, that haven't been able to even come close to matching the controller/gameplay quality of goldeneye.

i think back with n64 people were excited about gaming, and excited about going 3d. now - they probably use fucking focus groups like they do with films. what really clinched the deal for ps1 back in the day was that it was totally style over substance - people saw the FX cut scenes and thought it was so cool - like an adult cartoon. it seems most games now are just those fucking cut scenes extended the whole way through only with the most basic and clunky interactivity of an fps.

its sad what happened to sega. but the idiots are always going to pick style over substance. back in the day they all picked fifa because it had the official player names and the official logo and trendy music. whereas international superstar soccer was simply a superior football game, but it didnt have the marketing of course.

anybody else remember what you imagined games would be like by 2010 when you were a kid playing ps1 or n64? games were supposed to always get better. this was the thing about 3d and gaming and technology at the time. technology was becoming the new relegion in peoples lives by around the 80's. in the 90's you had the proliferation of home computers, mobile phones, gameboys etc. into the average home. back then as a kid it was quite dazzling and you really thought the sky was the limit. because everything seemed to be able to be made into a game. we really thought back then that innovation would only increase as the megabits got larger lol. WOW - PROJECT DOLPHIN IS GOING TO HAVE 128MB OMG THINK OF THE GRAPHICS! by the time i was a teenager people were actually playing the sims of their own choice and i was like - fuck this i'm listening to music.

10.13.2010, 02:36 PM	#2753
ni'k invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,360	the thing about getting a next gen, like a ps3 - is that for all the money it costs it'll prob fuckin break on you in 2 or 3 years. at least all the ps2s did. whereas your old n64 you bought all those years ago is probably still working. i actually got a ps3 for a while and returned it. was basically disgusted at myself for spending all that money on the thing. i bough unreal for it and was just like - wtf. this is the same fucking unreal game i played as a demo on my pc around 1999. all these years later i by it and its improved barely one iota. played half life 2 again and portal. then thought - i need a new laptop. i remember the late 90's and gaming - i was obsessed with it. and i was there when gaming morphed from a nerdy thing to a thing that your average dude did for fun and was not embarrassed by. this happened with the psx - i always hated sony and ps1 for that but to be fair it did have some great games. but that was the time when gaming started to become "cool" and then became like this typical male macho habit. i can still remember how people used to pay fucking money for fifa 2001 or whatever. in the uk there was this thing on our teletext service on channel 4. don't know if you US people have teletext? anyway it was called digitiser and it was written by hardcore gamers that were into their shit. and i can remember them making the same points that adam is making - about dreamcast being this overlooked gem. they would get quite angry about it and bemoan people for putting another EA sports piece of shit to number 1 in the uk gaming chart. ps1 was like the punk of consoles, because it opened things up to small cheap developers. but people liked ps1 because of the image and the marketing, because it transitioned gaming from something looked upon as childish and nerdy to something cool that 18 year olds did. whereas i can remember people wondering why nintendo magazines didn't give away free demo cartridges - the answer was because they would have cost like 70quid. ps1 opened up the floodgates to the kind of turgid crap we have today. were games are trying to be films. seriously, can you think of a more embarrassingly adolescent and stupid era for gaming than the 00's? every game seemed to be another fps designed for 13 year old morons who couldn't play something like pikmin or whatever because they are self conciouss and don't want to be seen as the children they are, so they choose some shitty "omg so awesome guns and blood" thing. i know this is down to marketing and what sells - and i used to overlook this shit because i thought "well - the type of person who makes games is a nerd, a technically minded dude good at mapping pixels in white backrounds. not a creative or artistic in the way a songwriter or novelist or script writer is. but you'd think by now and with all the fucking money put into games they could be coming up with some better shit than they are currently. now i'm sure there are a load of exceptions, that people who pay more attention to me have been mentioning already. i just got fed up and wasn't interested tbh. gaming will eventually get over these embarrassing ugly years and there will be games in the future that really push us into new frontiers, but so far what we've seen isn't really close. i mean, its 2010 and what do we have. fps's that aren't as good as goldeneye, that haven't been able to even come close to matching the controller/gameplay quality of goldeneye. i think back with n64 people were excited about gaming, and excited about going 3d. now - they probably use fucking focus groups like they do with films. what really clinched the deal for ps1 back in the day was that it was totally style over substance - people saw the FX cut scenes and thought it was so cool - like an adult cartoon. it seems most games now are just those fucking cut scenes extended the whole way through only with the most basic and clunky interactivity of an fps. its sad what happened to sega. but the idiots are always going to pick style over substance. back in the day they all picked fifa because it had the official player names and the official logo and trendy music. whereas international superstar soccer was simply a superior football game, but it didnt have the marketing of course. anybody else remember what you imagined games would be like by 2010 when you were a kid playing ps1 or n64? games were supposed to always get better. this was the thing about 3d and gaming and technology at the time. technology was becoming the new relegion in peoples lives by around the 80's. in the 90's you had the proliferation of home computers, mobile phones, gameboys etc. into the average home. back then as a kid it was quite dazzling and you really thought the sky was the limit. because everything seemed to be able to be made into a game. we really thought back then that innovation would only increase as the megabits got larger lol. WOW - PROJECT DOLPHIN IS GOING TO HAVE 128MB OMG THINK OF THE GRAPHICS! by the time i was a teenager people were actually playing the sims of their own choice and i was like - fuck this i'm listening to music.
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