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Originally Posted by krischanski

You're right, it's only music.

But the band itself is part of a specific music scene with a typical kind of lifestyle and a general direction of political opinions and cultural life. And most of the fans will fit it, I think, and differences are less common.

In my collection I have some records from racist/ sexist/ nationalistic (metal and oi!) bands, because I like(d) the music, but I am not a fan of them and don't post in any related fan boards.

So: I'm still a bit surprised about your statements.

And: I do not need a gun. And I don't see why anyone could need one.

1. getting your political ideas from a band... why don't you read some books?

2. feel free to post in any message board you want, it's a free internet

3. i'm not a gun nut, but so far the anti-gun arguments on this thread have been pretty weak, i.e., moral rejection based on vague feelings of repugnance, or discussions of murder rate statistics. however, this is a matter of the individual vs. the state, and how much power should a society accord to the state. argue successfully the case for the state taking over and you win.

4. due to the treaty of versailles, germany had very tight gun controls before the rise of hitler. all guns were banned and seized in 1919, and only in 1928 firearm used was licensed, but very tightly (and jews weren't allowed to own them). maybe if the people had been armed the sa & ss thugs could have been stopped as they trampled their way into power? of course this is all speculation, but an unarmed populace is more easily controlled--hitler of course couldn't fuck with switzerland.