Lemonade - fizzy or flat?
 

I'm in the midst of a debate with someone over "ade" beverages (really in the midst, we're arguing this over the phone).

This person, a UK resident, claims that we Americans are misusing the word "lemonade," because "ade" inherently means carbonation in a fruit drink.

I say, he is full of shit. He is British. He eats things called "crumpets," does not find black pudding grotesque, and does not have access to Cherry Pepsi. He has two separate faucets in his bathroom for the hot & cold water. His local colleges have Cadbury's vending machines (I know, I ate myself sick out of one of them once). He drinks Irn Bru. In short, he's just plain fuckin' weird.

So what's the story? Are things like Orangeade and Cherryade brand names, or actual terms for a beverage?

Limeaids!

I dislike lemonade. And I don't think that 'ade' means that it carbonated.

I always thought "ade" just specified a cool, refreshing beverage that is usually fruit juice-based. At least that's what I know from crossword puzzles.

Just wondering if you gave him the crossword puzzle evidence.

Lemonade is good stuff.

I like both of them

I just finished off a glass of cherry limeade. Yeah....its great.

I have always assumed it to be non-carbonated.
I also kinda hate carbonation.
But I love Lemonade.

Ooh Atari, good thinking

Eat that!

Wouldn't it say on the pakaging?

pink lemonade

OK, having looked at the OED, here's the deal:

The suffix -ade in this context means "The product of an action, and, by extension, that of any process or raw material; as in arcade, colonnade, masquerade, lemonade, marmalade, pomade. " In other words, lemonade is something made from lemons.

Lemonade is defined as "A drink made of lemon-juice and water, sweetened with sugar." And there is a note that says: "In England now very commonly applied to ‘aerated lemonade’, which consists of water impregnated with carbonic acid with the addition of lemon-juice and sugar."

fascinating

well, yeah good point Hip Priest, about "-ade" being a suffix properly. Your point completely disproves truncated's British friend's contention. One Brit (you) has it right although noumenal's post sheds light on why truncated's British friend has grown accustomed to drinking aerated lemonade. But "ade" has also become a noun meaning "cool, refreshing drink" & that's what I was thinking of before I suppose.

Atari, I think you have Hip Priest and me confused, but there are worse people to be confused with...:)

oops, sometimes I don't bother to check back when writing posts.
i did mention you also though...

I'm confused - did Hip Priest post in this thread?

haha he didn't post here at all--- i was actually planning to edit that last post haha
i'm stoned & i think i read something good by Hip Priest (
so I had him on the brain
) at some point a few minutes ago & i was trying to find said post & thus did not edit in time in this thread

either that or i was really into the idea of one brit disproving another or something

who knows?

this window is also really minimized right now...

& i'm not even drinking tonight

But this whole misunderstanding gives me a golden opportunity to state that I sincerely wish that people would give me at least a couple of minutes after a post has been made to edit before commenting on any discrepancies or whatever. If there is a mistake, I will almost undoubtedly catch it right after reading it once it's posted. I don't deliberate over my words a great deal. At least at first. I write, then I post. Then, I go back & change things. It's an odd process I suppose.

I really should just be more careful & guarded I guess.

We may not have access to Cherry Pepsi, but we do have Pepsi-cino. Yeah, that's right, coffee flavoured Pepsi. WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF STUPID IDEA IS THAT????????

Hey no prob Atari. I've been caught myself a few times - I'll edit a post and then after I've edited it, I'll notice that someone has already responded to my pre-edit post. It's just so easy to edit stuff on here.

Yeah, when I looked up the definition of lemonade, there was an added bit about it being "still or carbonated."

However, I looked up orangeade, and that exists as a word in the OED, the UK version mind you, but exists nonetheless: "a fizzy soft drink flavored with orange." The very wording of that definition would suggest that the 'ade' correlates with the fizzy soft drink.

This is the most moronic, pointless debate ever.

It just pissed me off, being rebutted on something that is very obviously regional. And I repeat, he drinks Irn Bru. Have you ever tasted that shit? Anyone who drinks that can never be considered a beverage authority.

True. Irn Bru is indeed strange. Incredible as it may seem, you can now buy pre-mixed whiskey and vodka with Irn Bru.

But did you ever taste Vimto? Or do you have it in the U.S? That's a fantastic tast.

I England, Lemonade etc is indeed always sparkling, unless it's specifically described as 'still' lemonade.

Also, it's innacurate in the main to describe our lemonade as deriving from lemons - most of it is derived from artificial flavourings, such is the age we live in. In fact, , so unusual is it for lemonade to have had contact with fruit, that the fact is proudly proclaimed on the label.

Sainsbury's do a rather nice appple and melon flavour ade.

Homemade lemonade is really good.

Indeed it is. And so easy to make for something so nice.

pink lemonade annoys me
I like yellow

my dictionary defines -ade as
"a sweetened beverage of" too

Kool-aid is not carbonated, but the "i" in the suffix might suggest it aids one in being kool. I prefer the grape.

carbonated lemonade sucks. they should change that spelling to lemonaid, because the "i" would then aid the drink into sucking more.

Non-carbonated lemonade is generally (in the UK) called Lemon squash, isn't it?

Not being a non-alcoholic beverage expert I can't tell you for sure. But I'd call a fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemonade" and a non-fizzy lemon-flavored drink "lemon squash". If confronted.

They give you lemon squash after you donate blood, you know. That's the only time (outside of nursery school) I've ever drunk it.

!flat!
sprite and seven up suck.
when I was in the states I drank a lot of pink lemonade... I also bought the powder-bags to make it, just cos I was 14 and exicted.
the real best lemonade is the hand squeezed-lemons one.


you americans also have CO2iced-tea...that's disgusting.

pao-lino, this is one American who hates bubbly drinks.

Maybe after this exiting topic, we can move on to discussing our preferences for crushed or cubed ice.

I'll give you guys my special ice-cube recipe if there's enough demand!

yeah, high level of speculation.:)
mmm... mojito's crashed ice with mint... fresh.

Bite me vaj boy

I was being totally serious.
This has been riveting.

...
Bite me vaj boy.

Ooh, good comeback.

I'm lost for words. Your efforts to patronize me are deeply hurtful. I sit here in an emotional ruin as I type this.

I find this oddly satisfying.

Sadist! I'm so glad you're taking pleasure in my suffering.

there's something here that needs to be addressed immeadiatly, which is the english definition of an english word, is always going to be correct over whatever (horrendous) meanings have been attached to said word in the americas.

and cherryade, lemonade etc.. aren't brands it's like a generic term. we have cherry coke, although not cherry pepsi.