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gast30 11.16.2010 02:11 PM

stable international prices for crops and cereals
 
stable international prices for crops and cereals
is the priority
for the poor people to have something to eat
and not let the world be dictated by financial terrorism from a bunch of blind
billionairs or millionairs

you know the storie always the weak and the poor
to end that storie

if there is an stabe international price then it's good for the economy
and it's more easy to develop

for example solar energy can be introduced there and have a direct
connection of modern technology there

instead of dropping toxic waste, pile it up there, all that the rich want to get rid of
or with other words want to take the easy way, don't take responsibility

this is the only way to have a fast modernisation of 'our' world
were we can feel good as modern human beeings

Dr. Eugene Felikson 11.16.2010 02:13 PM

Cereal is absolutely delicious. My favorite food of all-time.

ni'k 11.16.2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
stable international prices for crops and cereals
is the priority
for the poor people to have something to eat
and not let the world be dictated by financial terrorism from a bunch of blind
billionairs or millionairs

you know the storie always the weak and the poor
to end that storie

if there is an stabe international price then it's good for the economy
and it's more easy to develop

for example solar energy can be introduced there and have a direct
connection of modern technology there

instead of dropping toxic waste, pile it up there, all that the rich want to get rid of
or with other words want to take the easy way, don't take responsibility

this is the only way to have a fast modernisation of 'our' world
were we can feel good as modern human beeings


this is the political analysis of a moron.

you cannot have a permanently stable price. impossible.

this is called capitalism.

you cannot have the prosperity you would consider as normal spread evenly around the globe. the only reason you and i have that prosperity is because other people in other regions don't. their poverty is an irreplacable factor in our prosperity. some sort of food equality is simply impossible under the current capitalist reality system. no nation or power structure on earth that is currently existing could do so.

so you're pissing in the wind unless you want to work on an alternative to capitalism.

if this is the case i suggest brushing up on some economic theory. false dawn by john gray would be a good place to start for the basics.

then you need to learn another principle which is about not coming on message boards and spouting the first thought that comes to mind. instead going off and researching and trying to make coherent and well thought out arguments.

either do that or there is no escaping the fact your thoughts here benefit noone and you are only talking to enjoy the sound of your own voice.

gast30 11.16.2010 02:38 PM

what you also can't have is
when your swimming in toxic pollution is
finding a better future

you have to remember that all good thing made by the pioneers were made for the good of mankind
for everyone

GeneticKiss 11.16.2010 02:40 PM

Your posts are like haikus with too many syllables. Please learn to use paragraphs properly.

floatingslowly 11.16.2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
then you need to learn another principle which is about not coming on message boards and spouting the first thought that comes to mind. instead going off and researching and trying to make coherent and well thought out arguments.


first...LOL

second...how DARE you suggest such a thing!

do you realize that what you are calling for would invariably cause the DEATH of messageboards as we know them?

learn2interwebz imo!

I <4 gast

floatingslowly 11.16.2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
Your posts are like haikus with too many syllables. Please learn to use paragraphs properly.

^^^ further proof that gast4.0
is
a
genius.

why did I not
t
hink
of that?

gast30 11.16.2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
this is the political analysis of a moron.

you cannot have a permanently stable price. impossible.

this is called capitalism.

you cannot have the prosperity you would consider as normal spread evenly around the globe. the only reason you and i have that prosperity is because other people in other regions don't. their poverty is an irreplacable factor in our prosperity. some sort of food equality is simply impossible under the current capitalist reality system. no nation or power structure on earth that is currently existing could do so.

so you're pissing in the wind unless you want to work on an alternative to capitalism.

if this is the case i suggest brushing up on some economic theory. false dawn by john gray would be a good place to start for the basics.

then you need to learn another principle which is about not coming on message boards and spouting the first thought that comes to mind. instead going off and researching and trying to make coherent and well thought out arguments.

either do that or there is no escaping the fact your thoughts here benefit noone and you are only talking to enjoy the sound of your own voice.

these are your negative thoughts standing in your way
if i
or other people
would react on all negative thoughts and things there are
you would have no life
your life would be lead by the negativity

ni'k 11.16.2010 02:56 PM

im going to decide that you are a trolling and i'm going to commend your parodic skills.

because the only other option portends to an even bleaker future for humanity than i had previously expected.

SONIC GAIL 11.16.2010 02:57 PM

I will be nice

gast I know you are new here, so that is why you should take niks advice no matter how harsh it is the asshole is right alot.

you see if you want to deal with the likes of this board you gotta be tough cause most here will not hesitate to rip you to shreds. goodluck to yah:)

space 11.16.2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL
gast I know you are new here, so that is why you should take niks advice no matter how harsh it is the asshole is right alot.


O, LAWD.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 11.16.2010 03:05 PM

gast everyone is
dumb dont mind them when
future be told
they will all see
error of their ways
idiots <3

ni'k 11.16.2010 03:06 PM

space do you seriously not agree with my first point that 3rd world inequality is necessary to maintain our first world prosperity? that you can't have one without the other?

space 11.16.2010 03:08 PM

sure, in order to climb to the top, it must be done upon the backs of others.

that said, why does there have to be a #world?

why not just a world?

somebody
hold my
hand/

Genteel Death 11.16.2010 03:09 PM

I'm not sure why nikka costa is being such an arsehole to this poster in particular, considering that there are other arseholes on here worthy of his banter better than he is, myself included.

ni'k 11.16.2010 03:13 PM

noone else appeared to be telling him so i did. if noone demands any standards off him his brain will think this type of discourse is suitable and he'll be lost in a moronic fugue of guilty kum ba ya ism until he is gunned down by cops in the lobby of the discovery channel building as he frantically waves his misspelt manifesto in front of the tv cameras screaming incomprehensible gibberish about the UN and the price of wheat.

Genteel Death 11.16.2010 03:17 PM

o'well i think hez coolz.

!@#$%! 11.16.2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
then you need to learn another principle which is about not coming on message boards and spouting the first thought that comes to mind. instead going off and researching and trying to make coherent and well thought out arguments.


yes, because we know that spending time on message boards is the new university education

space 11.16.2010 03:18 PM

I look forward to a day when the UN
is disbanded in favor of free cereal delivered
to the starving masses of siberian
AND india
but not those of hungary because we all know that
they will always be no matter what

ni'k 11.16.2010 03:21 PM

eh, i wasn't making the point that he should come on a message board in the first place.

but yes, i live in the uk so as of 2012 your comment is correct for probably about 70-90% of us.

Genteel Death 11.16.2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yes, because we know that spending time on message boards is the new university education


no noh it's teh new politival actveezim.

ni'k 11.16.2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by space
I look forward to a day when the UN
is disbanded in favor of free cereal delivered
to the starving masses of siberian
AND india
but not those of hungary because we all know that
they will always be no matter what


lol

gast30 11.16.2010 03:21 PM

because you can't know the inside of a person that well ni'k
you can't know
where the message come from

and ego
i know what and ego is
i laugh with myself

my human natural body
i know what my human natural body is

the complex brain and all it's different aspects we learn these days
i know them

the combination of how i am translated in the vieuw you have
wich is your vieuw
is what is going on in your brain

the combination of human body, brain, reactions and emotions
is one of complex structures


it's not about me

!@#$%! 11.16.2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
no noh it's teh new politival actveezim.


furrealzzz

keyboards of the world unite!

our pixels will light the (shining) path to vicktoreeeeee

gast30 11.16.2010 03:29 PM

and i am a genius

Genteel Death 11.16.2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
and i am a genius

...

Genteel Death 11.16.2010 03:36 PM

 

ni'k 11.16.2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast
because you can't know the inside of a person that well ni'k
you can't know
where the message come from

and ego
i know what and ego is
i laugh with myself

my human natural body
i know what my human natural body is

the complex brain and all it's different aspects we learn these days
i know them

the combination of how i am translated in the vieuw you have
wich is your vieuw
is what is going on in your brain

the combination of human body, brain, reactions and emotions
is one of complex structures


it's not about me


this has nothing to do with whatever moulding hamster corpse has stopped turning the wheel inside your head.

what i was talking about was the stupid shit you said.

i even recommended a book for you to read on the subject which could explain things. perhaps the answer is to not allow your own ego to cloud your thoughts and go read it.

but then perhaps not, as sadly by my own calculations the chances of you implementing a world wide price freeze on all crops fit for human consumption or making 1 slight step towards helping the global food shortage or inequalities of food distribution apart from when you eventually die and free up a little bit of food because you are not there to consume it - 0.00000000000001%

i put the 1 in there to be generous btw. its mostly decorative.

but then again perhaps i am wrong and perhaps my ego is distorting things.

because, it's like
i have a brain
one of complex structures

and it's not about me.

perhaps all these promises will be solved by one of genteels farts who gains sentience and parasitically implants itself in the brain of a monsanto foods ceo.

perhaps it would just take genteels fart to go on a vision quest wherein he allows the distorting clouds of ego to fall away revealing the true universal oneness that binds all reality.

of complex brain structures.
the ego who laughs at itself.

whoa.

its like
so
cosmic.
mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

!@#$%! 11.16.2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
...


speaking of which, porks, before there was the internetz, this was called "coffeehouse politics", no?--at least in spanish, not sure of the english expression. by which we meant: a lot of yapping and no action. "i support the proletariat that is battling outside of my window. pass me the pastries?"

gast30 11.16.2010 03:43 PM

ok not to go too much off topic

all the effort that is done to help to do good
is still there
and keeps growing

love and thanks

Genteel Death 11.16.2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
speaking of which, porks, before there was the internetz, this was called "coffeehouse politics", no?--at least in spanish, not sure of the english expression. by which we meant: a lot of yapping and no action. "i support the proletariat that is battling outside of my window. pass me the pastries?"

Yes, another poster pointed out to me recently that chatting on a forum is like going to the pub. Traditionally in England most public political debate used to happen in pubs, and a while ago someone else told me that Karl Marx once commented on how alcohol has the power of stimulating the intellect in the right person while he was attending one one such debate when he lived in England. The only difference I can see is how someone calls you an arsehole on a forum so easily, not the internet as such, just internet forums in general. I suppose you get used to the insults after a while.

Genteel Death 11.16.2010 03:59 PM

Suchfriends is a good example of someone who has the stamina to have his opinions scrutinised publicly without ever coming across as an arsehole, for example. I bet he'd make good and interesting company in a real debate.

tesla69 11.17.2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
this is the political analysis of a moron.
either do that or there is no escaping the fact your thoughts here benefit noone and you are only talking to enjoy the sound of your own voice.


you are the expert here on these topics, nikky, with so much experience

ni'k 11.17.2010 03:57 PM

well i do believe that i am expert enough to discern that what he was saying was bs.

and i don't think that that assumption is even mildly overstating my abilities.

and to think otherwise would be stupid.

but seriously, why don't YOU read that john gray book i was mentioning?

you can get these 2 together for $10

and this is the economics one that i was mentioning

if i had the money i'd buy them all for you since you would clearly benefit from reading them all and get a lot out of them.

try it?

gast30 02.14.2011 02:15 PM

the prices for cereals almost doubled
the situations is problematic

in canada, argentinie, australia, china and russia
there was a bad grow of crops


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