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Dr. Eugene Felikson 10.01.2010 10:14 PM

All tomorrow's tea parties: from Velvet Underground to rightwing US group
 
I thought that this might interest more than a few of you...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...d-tea-party-us

Quote:

Three-minute news clip suggests Maureen Tucker, drummer for the iconic band, may be a Tea Party member

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEt-IaRbcVY
The clip that started the debate

The Tea Party movement has already astonished observers with its meteoric rise across the US. But yesterday Twitter was buzzing with speculation about whether it had acquired an icon of cool as one of its supporters — a member of the legendary sixties band Velvet Underground.
A three-minute news clip from a local TV station in Georgia went viral on Friday, evoking alarmed responses from Velvet Underground fans that the band's drummer, Maureen 'Moe' Tucker, may have joined the ranks of Tea Party followers.
The clip showed a Tea Party rally in Tiftin, Georgia, and included a 20-second interview with a woman going by the same name, who says: "I'm furious about the way we're being led towards socialism. I'm furious about the incredible waste of money when things that we really need and are important get dropped because there's no money left."
Twitter was filled with speculation about whether the woman in the clip was the Maureen Tucker who sat behind Lou Reed and John Cale, thrashing at her set of drums on songs such as I'm Waiting for the Man and Sunday Morning.
Could it possibly be the same person managed by Andy Warhol?
There are clues that the link was more than just conjecture. Tiftin, in whose memorial park the Tea Party rally was held, is about 20 miles away from Douglas, Georgia, the town where Tucker the drummer moved in 1984 to bring up her family. How the great have fallen: she ended up working for a Wal-Mart there.
The Tea Party Patriots, one of the largest umbrella groups of Tea Party activists, has on its website a page for one Maureen Tucker. She lists herself as female, from Douglas, Georgia.
On it, the Maureen Tucker in question exhorts fellow activists to write to Barack Obama to tell him how angry they are: "DONT WAIT FOR A TEA PARTY – SEND HIM A LETTER/POSTCARD! YOU'LL FEEL BETTER!! KING OBAMA THE WHITE HOUSE WASH; DC 20500".
She says she has been protesting to the Senate about cap and trade, the system to reduce global warming pollution proposed by the Democrats.
She calls on people to send teabags in protest to the White House, and gives her reason for doing so: "This 'administration' HAS TO GO! I have come to believe (not just wonder) that Obama's plan is to destroy America from within. It is the only reasonable explanation for his actions/inactions!"
There is as yet no final confirmation of the identity of the mysterious Tea Party Tucker, but the affinities are certainly striking. It raises the intriguing possibility that a key member of the band that many ascribe to being the coolest ever is now convinced that Obama is the Manchurian candidate.
Watch this space.




Hahaha, what do ya think? The supposed Moe Tucker doesn't come in till near the very end of the video.

Lamont Cranston 10.01.2010 11:10 PM

I'm furious about the incredible waste of money when things that we really need and are important get dropped because there's no money left.
You think the candidates Beck and the Koch Brothers got you supporting are for those things?

GeneticKiss 10.01.2010 11:16 PM

"When fascism comes to America, it will be waving a flag ("We need to restore honor to America") and carrying a cross ("It's time for the country to get back to God")." -Sinclair Lewis

Isn't it funny how these people think Obama is pushing the country toward socialism when they're the ones acting like the Bolsheviks?

space 10.02.2010 12:32 AM

what would Bono do?

hevusa 10.02.2010 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Hahaha, what do ya think? The supposed Moe Tucker doesn't come in till near the very end of the video.



I am half Swedish, half American and all my Swedish "socialist" friends have it better than my American friends. They have health care, 5 week vacations, more luxuries, less crime, affordable education, etc.

I think Tea Baggers are holding back America from better things.

Lamont Cranston 10.02.2010 08:54 AM

the politicans they support are, fact is Tea Baggers don't know what they think but you try scratching below the surface and you find what they'd like to see is quite different from the Randian anarcho-capitalism they've been tricked into supporting, just look at the line about money for needed and important things.
moar: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us...1&pagewanted=1

!@#$%! 10.02.2010 10:13 AM

fuckin shit, its her!

http://pitchfork.com/news/40264-vu-d...the-tea-party/

fuckit, i'm burning her in effigy in my backyard

hevusa 10.02.2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
fuckin shit, its her!

http://pitchfork.com/news/40264-vu-d...the-tea-party/

fuckit, i'm burning her in effigy in my backyard



DO IT!

!@#$%! 10.02.2010 10:35 AM

the best part is this:

you go to her website:

http://www.spearedpeanut.com/tajmoehal/

it sez "subscribe to the moe tucker group"

you click on it and it gets redirected to a dummy webpage

but if you click the stop button on your browser before the redirect is completed

you end up in this page: http://lists.topica.com/lists/MoeTucker/

which says:

List Name MoeTucker (MoeTucker)
Purpose: This lustful aged doll likes it real hard and deep – see her taking an enormous meaty wang and find details of Cheating
Wives is a great MILF/mature sex video archive, click here to enter. This lustfil
aged doll liks it real hard and deep – see her takiegng an iegnormus metie wang,
Sweet busty milf shows what the word “nasty” means – see her getting banged real hard.
The It's an all-girl orgy where mature women munch on as much barely legal box as
they can get their hands on. Sweet bsty milf dhows what the word “nasty” meand –
see her getiegnt bahnged real hard, Extreme pussy-stretching – old hooker gets her
holes rammed by an enormous rigid dick products. Mature shaved pussy gets pounded by a young guys cock.


etc...

i shit you not. see for yourself


between this and the "marry grandma" news, it's a pretty ugly weekend on the internet

i better go get some breakfast so i have something to vomit

Lamont Cranston 10.02.2010 10:38 AM

I clicked that topica link and all I got was a typical cyber squatter front page

!@#$%! 10.02.2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamont Cranston
I clicked that topica link and all I got was a typical cyber squatter front page



no no-- stop the browser before it redirects!

it's usually an "x" button.

ps-- funny thing: watch this video

http://www.teapartytracker.org/

RanaldoNecro 10.02.2010 11:32 AM

Do people in America really know what socialism means?

Socialism is good for the non-rich poor working people, which I presume is most of the SYG.

If you work 50 hours a week in retail, socialism is your friend. It is not soviet workers marching down the street with tanks and incompetence.

get a grip people

hevusa 10.02.2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
Do people in America really know what socialism means?

Socialism is good for the non-rich poor working people, which I presume is most of the SYG.

If you work 50 hours a week in retail, socialism is your friend. It is not soviet workers marching down the street with tanks and incompetence.

get a grip people



about 45%-60% of Americans are ignorant of this.

Lamont Cranston 10.02.2010 12:07 PM

Socialism is good for the non-rich poor working people
like the demographic that constitutes the teaparty, so naturally they had to be organized to oppose such ideas at the time when their minds might start to drift
(plus also keep the base primed and motivated between elections much as they did in the 1990s with all kinds of Clinton hysteria)

GeneticKiss 10.02.2010 02:46 PM

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

That's all many education-fearing backward redneck "Americans" needed to hear

What the Tea Party morons want isn't the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave so much as it is a theocracy filtered through some kind of 1950s Americana lens.

Toilet & Bowels 10.02.2010 03:00 PM

death to america!

antiorgasm 10.02.2010 03:07 PM

oh god...ignorance is the REAL opiate of the people..

space 10.02.2010 03:33 PM

^^^ seven months is a long time to work up for that first post.

space 10.02.2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
death to america!

comments like that are bound to get you teabagged by Moe.

she'd love to rest her sweaty scrote on yr face, pink-o.

GeneticKiss 10.02.2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
Do people in America really know what socialism means?

Socialism is good for the non-rich poor working people, which I presume is most of the SYG.

If you work 50 hours a week in retail, socialism is your friend. It is not soviet workers marching down the street with tanks and incompetence.

get a grip people


I'd be willing to bet a number of Tea Partiers are union members.

the ikara cult 10.02.2010 10:04 PM

its a good job the Velvet Underground are so overrated innit

Dead-Air 10.03.2010 01:44 PM

Well, this sucks, but then Neil Young fell for Reagan and actually campaigned for him when Reagan ran against Carter (despite being Canadian!), and the Ramones described themselves as right-wingers for years. Both came around eventually as the lyrics to "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" and "Keep On Rocking in the Free World" demonstrate. People get boondoggled and make dumb decisions, when you're famous it's just more embarrassing on a large scale.

Toilet & Bowels 10.03.2010 03:55 PM

and james brown supported nixon

Dead-Air 10.03.2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
and james brown supported nixon


Which guaranteed Tricky Dick the wife beating vote.

radarmaker 10.03.2010 06:25 PM

Not sure why this is suddenly news now - it was discussed on the Velvets forum when the video was released 18 months ago.

!@#$%! 10.03.2010 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarmaker
Not sure why this is suddenly news now - it was discussed on the Velvets forum when the video was released 18 months ago.


news travel slowly from the velvets forum of course

you should report more often!

SYRFox 10.04.2010 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
the best part is this:

you go to her website:

http://www.spearedpeanut.com/tajmoehal/

it sez "subscribe to the moe tucker group"

you click on it and it gets redirected to a dummy webpage

but if you click the stop button on your browser before the redirect is completed

you end up in this page: http://lists.topica.com/lists/MoeTucker/

which says:

List Name MoeTucker (MoeTucker)
Purpose: This lustful aged doll likes it real hard and deep – see her taking an enormous meaty wang and find details of Cheating
Wives is a great MILF/mature sex video archive, click here to enter. This lustfil
aged doll liks it real hard and deep – see her takiegng an iegnormus metie wang,
Sweet busty milf shows what the word “nasty” means – see her getting banged real hard.
The It's an all-girl orgy where mature women munch on as much barely legal box as
they can get their hands on. Sweet bsty milf dhows what the word “nasty” meand –
see her getiegnt bahnged real hard, Extreme pussy-stretching – old hooker gets her
holes rammed by an enormous rigid dick products. Mature shaved pussy gets pounded by a young guys cock.


etc...

i shit you not. see for yourself


between this and the "marry grandma" news, it's a pretty ugly weekend on the internet

i better go get some breakfast so i have something to vomit


fuckin lol

RanaldoNecro 10.10.2010 11:39 AM

ROTFLMAO


get you teabagged by Moe.

she'd love to rest her sweaty scrote on yr face, pink-o.



automatic bzooty 10.10.2010 12:20 PM

aaaghhhh

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 10.10.2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Well, this sucks, but then Neil Young fell for Reagan and actually campaigned for him when Reagan ran against Carter (despite being Canadian!), and the Ramones described themselves as right-wingers for years. Both came around eventually as the lyrics to "Bonzo Goes to Bitburg" and "Keep On Rocking in the Free World" demonstrate. People get boondoggled and make dumb decisions, when you're famous it's just more embarrassing on a large scale.


I thought that it was just Johnny who was right wing, and that Joey and him feuded over it constantly.

hevusa 10.10.2010 04:51 PM

CUNT!

Genteel Death 10.13.2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarmaker
Not sure why this is suddenly news now - it was discussed on the Velvets forum when the video was released 18 months ago.

Yes not sure why this is suddenly big news.

Dead-Air 10.13.2010 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I thought that it was just Johnny who was right wing, and that Joey and him feuded over it constantly.


I've heard that too, but I read an interview with Joey when "Bonzo Goes to Bittburg" came out (I think it was actually in the first issue of Spin, which had Sonic Youth on the cover if I'm remembering right, too) where he explained the song saying (paraphrased, not quoted), "I mean, we're right wingers, but that was just too much to excuse genocide".

After that they sure appeared to get increasingly involved in "liberal" causes.

Genteel Death 12.18.2010 07:53 PM

*The Velvet Underground's Moe Tucker
has spoken for the first time since
local TV footage emerged online suggesting she was a supporter of the Tea Party movement
in the US.

The drummer was filmed at a rally staged by the anti-tax pressure group's supporters and even gave an
interview to a local TV station at the event this summer.

However, speaking to
Riverfronttimes.com, Tucker has denied she is right wing, and is merely voicing her opposition to
President Obama's administration as a dissatistified Democrat voter.

"Anyone who thinks I'm crazy about
Sarah Palin, Bush, etc has made quite the presumption," she declared. "I have voted
Democrat all my life, until I started listening to what Obama was promising and started wondering, 'How the hell will this Utopian dreamland be paid for?' For those who actually believe that their taxes won't go up in order to pay for all this insanity: good luck!"

She added that she did not necessarily hold "conservative views", but judged her politicial stance on an "issue by issue basis".

"I never paid attention to what the hell was going on. My always voting
Democrat was the result of that. My philosophy was and is all politicians are liars, bums and cheats," Tucker
explained. "I make decisions on an issue by issue basis. I'm far more of an independent than a conservative or liberal. I don't agree with all of either side, and I think anyone who claims to is either a fool or a damn liar."

The drummer said she was particularly upset by
Obama trying to pass the buck for America's economic problems.

"I disagree with an administration that for 20 months blames Bush," she explained. "If the President and his minions are so damn smart, why didn't they know the severity of the situation? The president has actually said - and I saw it on video - that they didn't know!"

Tucker admitted she had been surprised by the coverage that had been afforded her news interview, and the reactions to her views.

"I'm stunned that so many people who call themselves liberal yet are completely intolerant," she said. "I thought liberals loved everyone: the poor, the immigrant, the gays, the handicapped, the minorities, dogs, cats, all eye colours, all hair colours! Peace, love, bull! Curious they have no tolerance whatsoever for anyone who doesn't think exactly as they do. You disagree and you're immediately called a fool, a Nazi, a racist. That's pretty fucked up! I would never judge someone based on their political views. Their honesty, integrity, kindness to others, generosity? Yes. Politics? No!"

Tucker, who said she is no longer involved in music, has not heard from any of her one-time bandmates in The Velvet Underground since the incident, but declared: "Anyone who knows me knows that I'm not a fool, a racist, a Nazi. Anyone who knows me knows I'm afraid of flying, afraid of bugs, but not afraid to say what I think."

Keeping It Simple 12.20.2010 07:26 AM

Liberals are cunts of the highest order. Hypocritical ones at that.


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