ashton kutcher can suck an army commander's tank...
 

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Actor Ashton Kutcher, another one of Hollywood’s Kabbalah casualties, had come to visit Israel as a guest of the Kabbalah Center in Tel Aviv. On Saturday night Kutcher even partied in the birthday party of the Center’s founder, Rabbi Shraga Berg.
Yesterday, Kutcher took his spiritual trip one step too far: he went with his Israeli hosts to visit the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron and the so-called “Joshua’s Grave” in a Palestinian village called Kafel-Hareth, near Nablus. At the grave, he was greeted by Colonel Avi Gil, commander of the Ephraim Brigade, who presented him with the brigade’s baseball hat.
The Ephraim Brigade is in charge of the Palestinian cities of Tul Karem and Kalkiliah, and the area east of them.
In the picture below, published on the Israeli news site walla.co.il [Hebrew], you can see Kutcher wearing the brigade’s hat yesterday evening, during a basketball game of the Israeli national team in Tel Aviv (more pics here). The caption at the bottom of the article says that Kutcher is “looking looks like an overly enthusiastic Birthright kid“.

 

Ashton Kutcher with army hat (photo: berni ardov/walla.co.il)

I wonder if Ashton Kutcher knows what poor judgment he demonstrated yesterday. Both Nablus and Hebron are well within the occupied territories. For more than 40 years now, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians living in these cities have no political or civil rights, can’t travel, work or study freely, and are tried in Israeli military courts under British colonial laws. The area of the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron is particularly nasty. Entire streets are forbidden to Palestinians, kept only for the use of a tiny and radical settlers’ community, which frequently harass and abuse the Arab residents.
Did anyone tell Ashton Kutcher that in 1994 a Jewish Terrorist named Baruch Goldstien (another resident of Jewish Hebron) opened fire on the Arabs praying there, killing 29 and wounding more than a hundred? Does Kutcher understand that coming to Hebron to pray with the Jewish community there is like riding into a black neighborhood in Alabama, 1950, with a KKK group? Does he realize that going to Nablus with an army hat is seen in the same way as going there on a Tank?
I don’t oppose the right of Jews to pray anywhere, just as I think Arabs should have this right (most of the Palestinian population is forbidden from entering their holy sites in Jerusalem), but context is everything, and right now the context in the West Bank is that of the occupation and the settlements.
If Ashton Kutcher wanted so badly to visit these holy places, he should have done it as a guest of the Palestinians. I’m sure they would have been happy to host him. But then he might have faced a different problem: the Israeli tendency to prevent foreigners from entering the occupied territories on the Palestinian’s invitation.

If this shit is so serious to you, why do you care what an uneducated twat like ashton kutcher is doing?

I see the east has the same fascination with "celebrities" the "doomed" west does, eh?

This world is fucked.

nah, i dont care that much. its just a bit insulting to have ignorant twats partying where people were massacred.

most actors are idiots. john ford called them "cattle". what did you expect. especially with this one, who can't even act-- he's a model.

Yeah, for real.

Ok, though. Glad it was just a rant and not TOO serious.

Death and massacre are not new things though.

The earth is old, very old. Everywhere we reside is basically some form of ancient battleground or scene of a massacre.

Some are just more fresh in memory.

Just enjoy the earth, ignore the evil and the ignorant. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

since yr in israeli let me elaborate it for ya, partying irreverently on the sites of massacres is the fucking American dream :(

oh shut up. America is better than you give it credit for.

The human condition cannot be contained within a border of a country, or a point on a map.

excuse me? what?

(i am actually american, originally)

then I see you are intuitively aware of such matters ;)

he means that imbeciles abound everywhere. and he's right.

you ever watched "rape in the congo"? well...

Read it until you get it.

I don't know, sometimes that is the part that offends me the most (seriously, all facetious jokes and sarcasm aside :()!


I got that part, I just didn't understand how that somehow exonerates the excessive militancy of american imbecility?

Thank you.

I think the problem with the world is the need to blame either another country, or our own country for the evils human kind commit.

A few years ago it was Germany, they were the fucking devil re-incarnate because of the nazis.

Now it's America and it's oil machine and lust to keep it's power. (which is the same as Rome, England, and so on. America was supposed to be the answer, the country to start over and never commit the atrocities of the 'King'. Well, that didnt last either. Was it America? or The human beings who claimed it?)

Soon it'll be something else.

so on and so forth.

You still don't get it.

Militancy of American Imbecility? There's always one country controlling most things, and they do so with power. Get fucking over it man. Jesus christ.


We can just do it on a larger scale now, and we have planes and bombs instead of swords and battering rams.



I get that you want peace, and love, and understanding. But realize that it comes from within, not from religion or the demolition of the alpha-country.

my friend, America was evil long before the Nazis, and we bought all their evil little secrets to enhance our own evil. I think you misunderstand me, its not that "woe is America" tirade, more like trying to say to fugazifan, "hey, I sincerely know what you mean"

What makes America more evil than any country that ever wanted/and or attained power?

Every country wants power.


Did you forget all the evil things countries like France, England, Italy, Germany, Scottland, and etc. have been responsible for before America was even a country?

America has only been a country for a few hundred years, yet if you read a fucking history book you'd realize Evil didnt come out of nowhere and tag along for the ride on the fucking mayflower.

its not that they are MORE evil than others in the past, it is that today they are the continuation, the perpetuation of those said evils. America has picked up the tradition of evils and embellished it a bit..
would someone please point out where I or anyone else said that America was the ONLY evil, or the source of ALL evil in the world because honestly I don't even know what the fuck we are arguing about here

and for what its worth, what the fuck is your point? If there are other evils aside from America, how does that somehow vindicate or exonerate America for her own evils? And further, if there are other evils, shouldn't we fucking stop those assholes too?

i agree with DDD america is evil, but yeah so are and were most countries.
that doesnt mean that any country should be able to get away without consequences. i think that they all should pay for whatever past present or future wrongs that they do.

Indeed, but Im just talking about the human condition.

Why do we feel so enlightened?

Are we so mature now as a species? Because of the internet?

We may be technologically smarter but are none the wiser.


There have always been deep thinkers like you and me suchfriends. (and the rest of u on this board)

Look at all the ancient sophisticated poetry and art that was created during primal, brutal, ignorant and dark times. When ppl were being stretched on boards and having water pumped into them by their governments.

We could get rid of everything you think is horrible in America, and America it'self would vanish off the face of the planet.

There would still be something evil happening somewhere else.

Our job as humans is not to get rid of evil. That is impossible. It is to battle it with love. But be realistic. Love your neighbor, love your country, treat eachother well. That's all you can do. Go into office and try to change things from within if you want.

But like John lennon said, unless you have a better solution and way of doing things than the current people in power, your revolution is worthless.

Now back to reality, I dont want to change the world. I'll leave that to more patient and intelligent people.

I just want to play music and make ppl happy, forever and ever.

concern for others aside, it's peculiar to see that this dominating behavior is atavistically ingrained in our species and yet we keep calling it "evil". does the cat call his teeth "evil"? are the horns in a bull "evil"? or are they "natural". i'm just curious because this seems to be one of those words that are moral absolutes and are never questioned. "evil" has a way to arrest criticism like nothing else. call something "evil"-- and what does this really mean? that we have devised a morality that is contrary to our nature. but does it make sense? it's almost like demanding that trees grow blue instead of green.

when someone wants to take our stuff from us, it's not necessarily "evil". it's just human nature, which predates morality.

anyway, my point is... i just think we would have less destructive ways to deal with conflict if we had greater moral intelligence. cuz every time we brand something 'evil", it follows that "it must be destroyed" and.. doesn't that cause some extra "evil" too? i wish we had better labels for things-- it would make us a little smarter, maybe.

you are correct.
i also find it strange, happened a lot on a class trip to poland in highschool when people would call the nazis inhuman. but the fact is not only did humans do these acts of cruelty, but ONLY humans could do such a thing.

^^Indeed.

It's amazing how quick my attention span eludes me any time you have entertainers in the same subject as religion and politics. meh

the catch is that humans are a bit above other animals, as it is as much a part of our nature and instinct to be altruistic, to share, to be loving and compassionate as it is so be selfish and dominating. We use the term EVIL to describe things we feel intrinsic guilt or shame regarding, precisely to embrace and uphold these more noble aspects of human nature and condition.

Humans are not entirely bad, in fact, we are remarkably good most of the time, even and especially in the worst of circumstances.. In a war zone there as many acts of kindness, mercy and love as there are brutality, horror and atrocity, the trick is to balance. The cat's fangs are not evil until it bites the hand that feeds it..

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of love is life.

lol.

Not more evil, perhaps more powerful.

^^Maybe, but maybe not.

We do our dealings in the shadows, rather than front and center.

Like, back in the day, speaking italian because it was the language of the caesar or english because it was the kings language and etc.

Now a days everyone speaks english (american) but they have their own leaders and own countrys, but really, it is America on their mind.

I don't know why I can't precisley say what I'm trying to...this post probably makes no sense.

The sun never sets on the british empire, comes to mind.

It's the same now with America, and etc. etc.

except not everyone answers directly to the leaders of america, but they kind of do because what we do affects the worlds economy...

ah Im just dumb

too dumb for this discussion. I just "get" the human condition.



What I'm really just trying to say is

"same as it ever was"