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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.03.2009 05:09 PM

fucking Jury Duty
 
I am killing time here while the videos play for my online Jury Orientation so that I can go in two hours later.. I plan to get off by being a Quaker, I can't cast judgment against anyone.. bastards.

jury duty would be a wonder idea if it wasn't compulsory. It is good to be judged by your peers, but if they are coerced into it there is a definite bias and conflict to justice so it is not a very good system. at the same time, if you relied strictly on volunteers then the jury pool would not be representative of the general population and therefore 'peers'

sonicpixie 10.03.2009 05:21 PM

good luck with getting out of it! i dont think i could handle that if i got called up... what else could you say that would mean you couldnt do it? you could pretend you know or recognise the defendant perhaps

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.03.2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicpixie
good luck with getting out of it! i dont think i could handle that if i got called up... what else could you say that would mean you couldnt do it? you could pretend you know or recognise the defendant perhaps


last time I told them I have a bias against the court and the police and I do not trust any evidence it presents.. they scratched their head and let me go.. I was prepared to get loud and angry to become a "hostile juror"

if you are assertive enough against service but in full compliance of all the bullshit steps up to the interview, they send you on your way for being polite but antagonizing.

Savage Clone 10.03.2009 05:24 PM

Don't take this the wrong way, but you don't have anything to worry about.

sonicpixie 10.03.2009 05:31 PM

you've been called up twice? is this normal? only one person i know has been called for jury duty

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.03.2009 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Don't take this the wrong way, but you don't have anything to worry about.


I have absolutely nothing to worry about, I have done this before. It is the inconvenience of it all, it takes hours and even days for me to simply tell the judge and prosecutor that I am in no means interested in this whole thing to be dismissed. I am doing this orientation so that I don't have to go over there at 730am and sit there all damned morning.. hopefully the God smiles on me and the stars align so that though my number has been called once, they do not call me the first day for a jury, if they do not I am automatically dismissed..

"I know this. know all the world besides,
that part of tyranny I do bear,
I can shake off at pleasure.."

pbradley 10.03.2009 05:51 PM

I would like to have jury duty at least once for the experience.

jennthebenn 10.03.2009 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
I would like to have jury duty at least once for the experience.


I've been called once. Having a mother and sister each be the victim of
separate armed robberies at their places of employment made me an easy
scratch when they were picking the jury for a criminal trial where the
defendant was facing six counts of armed robbery. But then I was chosen
to serve on a civil case, the most fucking boring one imaginable.

I would give the experience a B-.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.03.2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jennthebenn

I would give the experience a B-.


Yr such a good american.. my experience was only mild and I still gave it a D- if not a full on F!

jennthebenn 10.03.2009 06:10 PM

I nodded off on the bench while a witness was speaking, hence the high
grade. You can't beat serving on a jury and taking a bit of a nap.

pbradley 10.03.2009 06:17 PM

I'm helping my lawyer dad photocopy invoices for a civil case.

I might not find civil cases as boring as most.

EVOLghost 10.03.2009 06:34 PM

I just fucking sat in a room. Fuck

infinitemusic 10.03.2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I am killing time here while the videos play for my online Jury Orientation so that I can go in two hours later.. I plan to get off by being a Quaker, I can't cast judgment against anyone.. bastards.

jury duty would be a wonder idea if it wasn't compulsory. It is good to be judged by your peers, but if they are coerced into it there is a definite bias and conflict to justice so it is not a very good system. at the same time, if you relied strictly on volunteers then the jury pool would not be representative of the general population and therefore 'peers'


And the people who did agree would be more likely to be people who WANT to pass judgement on a person.

artsygrrl 10.03.2009 09:09 PM

I've been called for jury duty only once, but it was such a waste of time. I had to call them really early every day for 3 days to see if I was "needed". Of course I had to go in just in case. Of course I was never "needed".

Keeping It Simple 10.04.2009 06:13 AM

I got out of jury duty by getting my dad to ring the court to tell them I was too ill to do it.

!@#$%! 10.04.2009 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I am killing time here while the videos play for my online Jury Orientation so that I can go in two hours later.. I plan to get off by being a Quaker, I can't cast judgment against anyone.. bastards.

jury duty would be a wonder idea if it wasn't compulsory. It is good to be judged by your peers, but if they are coerced into it there is a definite bias and conflict to justice so it is not a very good system. at the same time, if you relied strictly on volunteers then the jury pool would not be representative of the general population and therefore 'peers'


YEA

LET OUR SOPREME LEADER HAILIE JAKARTAWAM SELLLASSIE JUDGE US ALL

ONLY HE IS DIVINE

 


SEZ THE POSTER!!!!

Glice 10.04.2009 07:09 AM

If everyone's going to start a thread for every mundane and irksome thing they do, I'm starting a blog about the consistency of my turds.

pbradley 10.04.2009 07:19 AM

^ Do it to it, Lars.

atsonicpark 10.04.2009 12:00 PM

I wrote to them telling them I was racist (I'm not at all), I worked 3rd shift so it'd be hard to be there for jury duty (I only work the weekends, so...), and I don't really believe in casting judgement on people (...I just really didn't want to do this bullshit). They never got ahold of me again.

gmku 10.04.2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
last time I told them I have a bias against the court and the police and I do not trust any evidence it presents.. they scratched their head and let me go.. I was prepared to get loud and angry to become a "hostile juror"

if you are assertive enough against service but in full compliance of all the bullshit steps up to the interview, they send you on your way for being polite but antagonizing.


Yeah, they usually don't want to bother with nut jobs.

I've done it before and it's nothing. Once I only had to be on call as an alternate. I've also sat as a jury member in a courts martial when I was an officer in the Air Force. That was better because I was still getting my regular AF wages and the case was entertaining.

wellcharge 10.04.2009 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
I would like to have jury duty at least once for the experience.



me too

gmku 10.04.2009 12:24 PM

It can be either interesting or dull. All depends on the case you get.

amerikangod 10.04.2009 12:43 PM

I got called as an alternate once when I was 19. I was supposed to call a number to see if I was supposed to come in. I didn't call, and apparently they had picked me. I had to show up and fill out some forms about a month later so as not to go to jail. And then a few years after that I got called again. I was at the courthouse for three days waiting to see if I'd get picked. They picked me on the last hour of the last fucking day. They made me the head juror for some goddamn reason. Two days into serving on some bullshit civil case (a woman was suing because she tripped on the sidewalk), on my way home (like, four blocks away from where I lived) I got hit in the head with a pipe as part of some gang initiation I stumbled into. As much as that sucked I used it as an excuse to not go in to jury duty the next day and was off the hook. The bastards never even paid me and I missed a week of work because of it.

Also I would love a thread where we could weigh in on our turds.

GeneticKiss 10.04.2009 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pbradley
I would like to have jury duty at least once for the experience.


No, you wouldn't. I lost 9 hours from my life that I can never get back.

pbradley 10.04.2009 06:55 PM

Yes, I would and do. I shall touch the flame myself.

gmku 10.04.2009 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by amerikangod
I got called as an alternate once when I was 19. I was supposed to call a number to see if I was supposed to come in. I didn't call, and apparently they had picked me. I had to show up and fill out some forms about a month later so as not to go to jail. And then a few years after that I got called again. I was at the courthouse for three days waiting to see if I'd get picked. They picked me on the last hour of the last fucking day. They made me the head juror for some goddamn reason. Two days into serving on some bullshit civil case (a woman was suing because she tripped on the sidewalk), on my way home (like, four blocks away from where I lived) I got hit in the head with a pipe as part of some gang initiation I stumbled into. As much as that sucked I used it as an excuse to not go in to jury duty the next day and was off the hook. The bastards never even paid me and I missed a week of work because of it.

Also I would love a thread where we could weigh in on our turds.


That's a nice story. Are you writing that for the stage or a screenplay?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.04.2009 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
YEA

LET OUR SOPREME LEADER HAILIE JAKARTAWAM SELLLASSIE JUDGE US ALL

ONLY HE IS DIVINE


 


SEZ THE POSTER!!!!

 


Selassie I Jah! Rastafari! Negus I is the Fullness of Divinity, an Incarnation of Infinity! Earth's Rightful Ruler! but again as I said about jury duty and Rome in general,


"I know this. know all the world besides,
that part of tyranny I do bear"

Glice 10.05.2009 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
No, you wouldn't. I lost 9 hours from my life that I can never get back.


I can't believe you're on this forum complaining about wasting time on disagreeable things. Irony, anyone?

Lurker 10.05.2009 12:44 PM

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GeneticKiss 10.05.2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I can't believe you're on this forum complaining about wasting time on disagreeable things. Irony, anyone?


But I like it here...:(

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.05.2009 03:45 PM

those bastards.. I feel so nervous in a court house, I feel all the negative duppie vibes of the shitstem.. all the sterile hallways, the badges and guns, the judges and lawyers and vampires, it makes me so damned uncomfortable I could throw up..

and I have to go back tomorrow and sit through more of this shit.. and I feel in my heart that God is dragging me onto a murder trial. I can't claim God as my reason to get out if God is sending me in the first place.. so I might be stuck for three weeks in a process that makes me uncomfortable to the very core of my being.. most people just feel inconvenienced, I feel like I am standing in the lion's den, the snake pit, the fiery furnace, King pharaoh's judgment seat.. ' those who fight against justice, fight against nyabinghi..' fyah burn hotta fyah red red red..

floatingslowly 10.05.2009 06:45 PM

good sir, if you pride yrself on truth-seeing, perhaps you are denying one of yr brethren freedom by NOT showing up.

also, jury duty is not judge duty, but I think yr confusing passing judgment on someone for who they are versus passing judgment on someone for what they did.

I mean, it was good enough for Solomon....

Lurker 10.05.2009 07:06 PM

I've never fucked a jury duty so wouldn't know what fucking one was like.

gmku 10.05.2009 07:23 PM

Not that there weren't any jurors I'd have minded fucking.

Lurker 10.05.2009 07:24 PM

Maybe fucking one of them would have helped you to not get put in prison.

gmku 10.05.2009 07:25 PM

Yeh, it's not fun here. No coeds.

Lurker 10.05.2009 07:30 PM

maybe fuck a prison guard to get out?

Lurker 10.05.2009 07:30 PM

Anyway, tell me how that goes, I've got to sleep.

gmku 10.05.2009 07:34 PM

It's bed check time. Gotta hide my soap knife and kiss my cellmate night-night.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.07.2009 02:24 PM

so it was evening at the Improv when I finally got interviewed by the Judge for the jury this morning:

1) Have you been the victim of a crime?

Yes, I was robbed by a friend. He said, why did you not call the police? I said I do not trust the police, I figured it was on God. He said God left you hangin, I said not necessarily. Then i explained that I did not want to be the one to bring the hammer down on my former friend, regardless, I don't roll like that. I don't call the cops for shit.

Also had to mention the five people I know who have been shot, two killed, one by the police. He said any issues with being fair in this case? I said, I hold the police entirely acountable for the murder of my friend, and subsequently have trust issues with the police. He said, the all the police? I said yes, the entire institution. As a Rastaman I do not trust the law or its authority, actually it makes me quite nervous.

3) Have you been arrested?

Yes, three occassions. He said did the police treat you fairly? I said no, on one occassion they invaided my home illegally, and arrested me. He said did you fight the case? I explained that the DA's deal was more affordable than the lawyer, he said why not the PD? I said the PD does not help you very well with such petty cases..

4) any guns?


No they make me uncomfortable.

He then asked me, why I did not trust the courts or the police when my own friend robbed me with a gun? I explained WELL THE COPS CARRY GUNS TOO, he said they have a license, I SAID I DISAGREE WITH THAT LICENSE. GUNS MAKE ME NERVOUS. He brought up the robbery, I explained, 'well, honestly I feel the cops robbed me as well, they just like the my friend, kicked in my door and arrested me illegally and robbed me through the courts of my $$$."

I got a lot of laughs, it was truly funny to me. I love fucking with the court, especially if it is all based upon the truth.

Its like, Jesus, who is on trial here? Me or the defendent?


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