American History X
 

I watched this today and absolutely loved it.
"Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it."
Poor Danny... :(

Could Edward Norton be anymore sexy in this movie???

Well beside the ridiculous swastika tattoo...

I saw it a while ago.
Things I remember: some guy getting his face smashed in a curb, some guy getting raped in prison, and the kid getting shot in the head.
I watched it late at night and I wasn't really paying attention, so I can't say how good it was, but I can say that I enjoyed it.

this is a good movie, however the director wanted to make it into an allan smithee film because the studio let edward norton into reedit the film and he made it into an edward norton film. it is still a good film though, if you like that you should check out a film called romper stomper

romper stomper is prob better. Just cuzz.

What's Romper Stomper about?

nomadicfollower,
All those scenes were so brutal to watch :( Especially the one with the curb, it make my teeth hurt haha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romper_Stomper

here is a little imformation, it is an independent australian film covering the same topics but it is much more grittier and less glossy. it stars russell crowe before he was an international star. it is about gang warfare in melbourne in the late 70s and early 80s raging between skinheads and vietnamese.

Sounds good :)
I'll look into watching it...

I saw that movie a few years back, it was ok, it has a cult following of retards in my school that get together and curbstomp each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRTVD...arch=curbstomp



The curbstomp about makes me sick. I can hardley watch it.

Like I said before.........retards!

I wasn't too into that movie.

I watched this two days ago. It influenced my curbstomp thread. I loved it.

I knew I had seen curbstomp some where on this board before. So what is a curbstomp?

Watch the video. Basically, someone sits their top teeth on the curb and someone else stomps their fucking skull in.

gross

There's a curbstomp thread?!?!
I need to pay more attention to things.

Hahah you got it!

It sounds pretty repulsive. I'd hate to see that...
I hope no one actually does this.

hell of a movie. I can't stand the rape scene pretty fucked up stuff then for him to have to @ the end be asked to rejoin the skin & have his brother killed, harsh. I must agree the story behind prison is great when he has to interact with a member of the opposite race or when he denies the skins & the other races take notice in the cafeteria, pretty much showing that he's vonerable & no longer protected. I also appreciate the cinematography in this how the color & black & whit is mixed for the scenes of the past. It's funny I was just thinking about this film today. I belive their is much to learn from this film!!!

Hahah half way through the movie today i said to my friend "had it always been in black and white?" I never notice when the colour switches on and off haha.

Good Movie. I'll just say this;

"Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks
Nazi Punks
FUCK OFF!"
-Dead Kennedys

hola,i like this movie,it's very well shot and acted(i love the basketball game sequance),mr.norton is one of the best and most important actors of our days imo.
actually i think that this movie is not too hard to watch,the curbstomp is the only scene maybe "too" strong(even if the rape in prison it's an horrible situation to think about,also because it's something that actually happens..).
conicidentally last night i watched fight club.

i saw it too, although i did prefer Romper Stomper, the curb thing was a bit gruesome but the thing where he's influencing the brother all the was thru and then he goes to prison and comes out all good and stuff and tries to stop the brother.. i like where it flicks between black and white and then color, classic film. you should check out Romper Stomper EMMah, Russell Crowe is prob one of my favorite all time actors, Gladiator makes me bawl like an ass everytime i see it

My friend Keely,who is american,once spent over an hour trying to convince a french girl who we knew that people can actually think and react like they do in the film round where she was brought up in California.The french girl kept on insisting that the whole movie is way too Hollywood to be believed or taken seriously,not taking into consideration that european sensibilities can vastly differ from american ones.And there isn't anything wrong in that either,it's just the spice of life i suppose.

i thought the russell crowe flick bordered on "exploitation cinema", rather than addressing serious issues at hand.. it was gory and violent - not that it's a bad thing - and lacked the essence american history x had..

good movies.. a serious issue, where it's difficult to examine all the underlying aspects..
american history x is a part of my collection, and i watch it about once a year, and still find it powerful in terms of narration...

i like both movies equally but i don't like the fact that x became the edward norton show, he is indeed a great actor up there with phillip seymore hoffman and johnny depp but i don't really like him, i like him about as much as i like tom cruise but of course norton is far cooler than tom cruise could ever be

Fucking brutal, but a good movie.

Great movie! Watched it several times. Fight Club is pretty amazing too, i love movies with Edward Norton in it he's my favorite actor.

french people are mad, did you ever see La Haine?

La Haine is a great movie indeed.I relate to it a lot being italian.The police in France and in Italy are brutal in big cities.It's no wonder you get people rioting all the time

very good movie.

Romper Stomper is of course more visceral, being focused solely on the actual skinhead subkulcha, wherehas in X, the skinhead subkulcha is more of a backdrop thingy, where the filmakers have splashed all the colors of hate, bigotry, ignorance, bitterness, sorrow, misery, violence and shallowness into a quiet mess of riotuousness and rebelliousness.

i didn't know about the edit but that explains a lot. the movia was a letdown for me after hearing so much about it. too fucking contrived and overly sentimental and cliched. edward norton as usual shows great acting but i guess that's what happens when you let whores (actors that is) get their paws on the final version of the film. if you don't believe me, go watch "spartacus" & notice how kirk douglas mauled stanley kubrick's work. ayayay...

i'll check out romper stomper, thanks for the reference.

thats scene with the curb and the teth! oh god it makes me squirm just thinking of it.

Right?? ;)
Excellent movie.

25th hour was another really good film that starred ed norton. the subject matter is nothing near that of american history x, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it's just a good movie.

i didn't dig romper stomper, though.