Student Arrested and Tasered at John Kerry Speech
 

i hope you all did see this already, but i was rather shocked seeing this video (someone gets tasered at the end):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaiWCS10C5s

student at kerry speech asks some questions to john kerry and gets arrested and tasered.

you could say he was arrested for not giving away the mic, but what is free speech? but in the end, why the fuck would you tase someone while he is in cuffs?

I saw this. why would someone be charged with resisting arrest? why was he being arrested? he kept asking questions and such, but they have to file a bopgus "resisting arrest" charge to justify the tasering. first of all tasering is NOT to be used on someone who you already have held down. that is just fucked. you can hear him screaming "I didn't do anything!"

Holy shit..

notice also that while he is being led away to be cuffed Kerry states "I want to answer his question because it is an important question", regarding both him and bush being members fo skull and bones.

that is absolutely fucking outrageous.

Forgive me for pointing out the obvious but if they guy had just left as requested by the two initial officers the rest of it wouldnt have happened.
The way he was carrying on with the mic appeared to be designed to disrupt the Q & A part of the audience with Kerry. I find it remarkably coincidental that the person with the camera just happened to be sitting next to him too. I think this guy was trying to use the audience to protest and he got what he wanted, a controversial scene with him being thrown out and hit with a stun gun. The security/police played right into his hands

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

watch this version and see the guy in the suit start making motions to cut off the questioner - but if questioner had gone over his time limit, than he should have stepped aside. None of the videos seem to show the entire deal.

Personally i think this is psy-op, a distraction while a US Attorney (who claims to have done it many time), was arrested going to detroit to rape a 5 year old girl.

whether he was being a boor or not, a person at an open mic has no reason to be arrested, and especially no reason to be TASERED

the man was not endangering anyone, nor was he rambling incoherently, he was asking a question about kerry's involvement with skull & bones and Bush's involvement with skull & bones

There are people walking away at the start or laughing as if it's some kind of joke. Unbelievable.

cops tend to be violent-prone imbeciles, and as a general rule it's not a good idea to resist arrest--unless you're guilty and have a good reason to attempt escape (say, if you're pablo escobar).

shaking them off (as he did), screaming "don't taze me bro", trying to rise when they are trying to hold you down will get your ass kicked by these goons. unfortunately the best policy is to LET THEM ARREST YOU and shut the fuck up. if you're not being a good boy, they'll make you.

for those of you planning on being arrested, please read up
http://michaelbluejay.com/police/arrest.html

this part is good:

If you are being abused, don't resist. Once multiple officers start hurting you, you can't stop them by resisting, and struggling may only encourage them. Think of a cat playing with a mouse -- while the mouse is struggling, the cat is excited, but when the mouse stops moving, the cat loses interest. In some cases, the police may continue to abuse you even if you don't struggle, but since struggling can't help you, it's best not to try.

--

i carrry an ACLU card in my wallet that explains what to do if you're arrested.

oh yes, you can find it here

here's a nice excerpt:

What To Do If You’re
Stopped By The Police

Think carefully about your words, movement, body
language, and emotions.
Don’t get into an argument with the police.
Remember, anything you say or do can be used
against you.
Keep your hands where the police can see them.
Don’t run. Don’t touch any police officer.
Don’t resist even if you believe you are innocent.
Don’t complain on the scene or tell the police
they’re wrong or that you’re going to file a complaint.
Do not make any statements regarding the incident.
Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.
Remember officers’ badge & patrol car numbers.
Write down everything you remember ASAP.
Try to find witnesses & their names & phone numbers.
If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries
as soon as possible, but make sure you seek
medical attention first.
If you feel your rights have been violated, file a
written complaint with police department’s internal
affairs division or civilian complaint board, or call the
ACLU hotline, 1-877-6-PROFILE.

and i pity this poor fucker. looks like he was hurt. but he kept pushing back and shit-- never push the cops back. sounds like a bad s/m situation but the law sez you gotta submit. which sucks. but they have the law on their side etc.

of course kerry acted like the twat he is during this whole incident. pretending nothing is happening & shit while the guy is screaming. what a fucking twat.

sorry, but if you have to carry a card which tells you what to do if you are arrested, there is something wrong with the country you're living in.

on the other hand, why tase someone if he is in cuffs? why not lay him face down and control him. that tazer is a weapon used instead of shooting someone, not to control.

im not going to dispute that. i'd take that further saying there's something wrong when you need armed cops. but yeah.


ha ha no. in the u.s. the tazer is not a replacement for shooting. shooting is for killing; tazing is to obtain "submission" from the person arrested. he wasn't giving it, so they took it.

im not against this guy or his right to free speech. but as i said, most cops are violent-prone idiots, you gotta beware or suffer the consequences. once they lay hands on you, the law says you gotta be a submissive puppy.

ps- once i got cuffed in some traffic stop for having accidentally left my headlights off, and they thought i might be on drugs so they cuffed me. i did not fight it off, they eventually let me go and wished me a nice evening. my ego was bruised for sure but my bones were intact.

haha, cuffed before they knew certain? that's wonderful. they shouldn't try that over here.

but i understand you'd better keep quiet when you get arrested, but using a tazer. it has been introduced over here recently as a weapon when a officer feels threatened, instead of shooting the other person in the leg.

anyway, still happy to live over here.

OWWWWWWWWWW!! OWWWWWWWWWW!! WAAAAAAAAAA!!! HELP ME!!!


you fucking democrats and your nazi like tactics, tazering this poor kid who only wanted to know the truth about democrat kerrys ties to skull and bones.

i hope other dems see this assault on the consititution and hold the democrats and thier Gestapo accountable.

DISGUSTING!

Obviously who ever made the cut off gesture thought that the man bring in the skull and crossbones questions was grounds to consider him a conspiracy theorist and a disruption. The man's composure was also a red flag. But it was wrong to have removed him during his question and tasering him was uncalled for. I kind of wished Kerry could have answered his questions since they didn't stick me as inappropriate.

I should probably be shocked by this, but, being as it's US police that we're looking at, I'm not even surprised.

so what you are saying is every civilized country on earth, all of who have armed cops, are wrong...man, i bet criminals would LOVE to have cops not be armed...what an idea...from the genius

Yeah, the UK doesn't have much of a problem with community/police relations because they have cameras everywhere keeping an eye on the population, which keeps everyone in line.

That all depends on your definition of civilised. Control by threat of death doesn't sound terribly civilised to these European ears.

I'm pretty sure you're just loving the fact that he was tasered after demanding the impeachment of Bush. Did you miss the fact that Kerry said he wanted to answer the question or is this all just sophistic picking and choosing for your own trolling delight? You're both so equally ignorant and selfish that I can't decide which to assume.

!@#$% is right, if you're getting arrested don't resist. fight your fights after the fact.

But there's no excuse for actions of these cops... campus cops no less. They already had him down, in cuffs, with multiple bodies on him. Not to mention the fact that it doesn't look like they ever told him what they were apprehending him for, which they are required to do. He did resist, but it's pretty bogus and a good lawyer could have these cops flipping burgers for the rest of their lives.

They should be charged with excessive force and lose their jobs.

Pigs.

or you can look at the amount of people who have died in police custody in the last few years over here.

For the record, I was only joking.
You won't often see me defending American police tactics, certainly not in this case.
Yeah, the kid was being a douche, but douchery isn't really an arrestable or taserworthy offense in my book.

its nice that kerry wants to look like he is willing to answer the question, but if you see somebody trying to ask a question and gets pulled away, or worse, get tasered, maybe it's better to say something about that.

Kerry comes off as a pretty ginormous douche in this situation for sure.

i know you where joking. we do have an insane amount of cameras in england, i forget the statistic but your on one 60+ times a day.

Why would he NEED to leave? Was he threatening to do anything dangerous? Possibly to the man's reputation yes, but he was just asking questions, albiet angrily, with sources too, fairly balanced, imfo. Why would the police need to restrain him? Kerry was going to answer the question(s) diplomatically, the man wasn't obviously going to attack anyone...

It's nothing but Kafkaesque that asking a few questions would lead to being tasered.

the only disrupt he caused maybe would've been a general unease in the room, b/c everything he asked pertained to that big white fucking elephant in the room that no one else had the hutzpah to ask about. the cops were clearly over the line when they even approached him initially, as he was doing nothing wrong. he had no reason to leave just because the cops asked him to, especially in a public forum.

:) yeah, i saw kerry do a lot there...i mean, he could of DEMANDED the police stop, or even make his way over there to help and assist. he did NONE. this was a democratic event and im sure the police were instructed by those in charge, what to do with protesters, and they followed those instructions. deal with it, this is a non republican issue, and it burns you up

hahaaaa...i love how easily i get the simpletons goin..wooooo

not too hard on this board of sheep:D

this troll needs his belly rubbed, huh?

haha..troll?? ive been schoolin the sheep here since the old board newbie, every now and then they need a smack...but if ya wanna rub my belly, feel free, hahaa

oh yeah, way to avoid the point of my post you quoted, that kerry did nothing, nor did any other of the democrats in attendance..NO ONE DID ANYTHING!

I think if you watch the clip carefully, and there are in fact two clips of this incident from different sides of the hall, the guy was tasered because they couldnt get the cuffs on him as he kept struggling, not after he was cuffed

Somebody send him an ACLU card ffs

the scary thing about this video isn't the arrest,nor the taser action. it's just the fact that nobody in the hall f*ckin' grabs a chair and attacks the cops.

what a bunch of fucking pigs.
resisting arrest is a bad idea but i would be pressing charges like a motherfucker.

i agree that it's shit that no one did anything, but these battles need to be picked and any member of the crowd who tried to be a hero could've ended up in a worse position than the poor guy that got tasered. as for kerry, after seeing his inactivity in that situation, i'm embarrassed to have voted for me.

i don't remember you from the old board, though. oh well.

There remains no moral warrant to use a weapon that has the potential of killing. There remains humane ways to calm people like him down so they can actually hear what Kerry was wishing to say.

struggling against arrest =/= taser use. cops are trained to subdue these types without using such force, but these cats obviously had a bit of a power trip going on and we see what the result was. tasers are supposed to be used when the subject is posing a threat that is dangerous, but not dangerous enough to warrant gun use. if those six officers couldn't keep that one guy under control, then they had no business on the force in the first place. how are you defending this shit?

The fact he went over his time to ask a question? The fact they cut the mic? The fact he was asked to leave as a result of that and violently refused to go?

Frankly all I have seen so far is a "lets kick the cops" vent

I still think this was a prestaged stunt by the person concerned and not a legitimate effort to ask probing questions of Kerry

Anyone found out yet if this guy was subsequently charged with anything?

Be interesting to see if a jury examining all of the evidence finds the guy guilty of something rather than a message board that has seen all of one clip on youtube crucifying the police/security who dealt with him

Doesnt anyone find the pack mentality to jump to conclusions without knowing or seeing all the evidence on here scary?

This smacks of a good old fashioned lynch mob

The risk of breaking his wrists or arms or dislocating his shoulders during restraint over the use of a stun gun?

Go figure

yeah, if you also listen closely you can hear them threaten him with being tased and he says "I'll walk out of here, just let me go"

Of course, they aren't going to let him go and he should have stopped fighting back, but he clearly was no physical threat to anyone in the room. They used the taser because they weren't competent enough to hold him down and cuff him. I see at least 5 officers holding him -- you're telling me 5 officers can't cuff some college kid?