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SynthethicalY 08.24.2007 12:00 AM

Why do People Oppose Sex Ed?
 
I mean really, we all know kids are having sex. So why not teach them how to protect themselves.

pbradley 08.24.2007 12:02 AM

Because some parents want to tell their children about sex in a closed, comfortable setting instead of a thought-mill environment like public school.

Or because sex is the DEVIL.

SynthethicalY 08.24.2007 12:04 AM

But I think a professional would do a better job than parents.

pbradley 08.24.2007 12:09 AM

Well too bad you're not everyone.

SynthethicalY 08.24.2007 12:10 AM

Yes, if I were the majority, they would also know about queer sex as well.

pbradley 08.24.2007 12:16 AM

I could imagine public school sex ed being more tramatizing for closet homosexuals (there should be a less technical word but less potentially-offensive word than "gay"). Hearing about hetero sex may increase feelings of isolation, particularly in mid western small towns.

I could only hope that parents would be liberal enough to home-teach these kids about hetero sex (for reference) as well as gay sex, diseases, and acceptance.

EDIT: then again, opting them out could increase feelings of isolation I suppose

SynthethicalY 08.24.2007 12:25 AM

I can understand the parents concern of protecting their child. However, they are doing more harm than good. Kids do not know how to protect themselves, and sometimes it is too late when the person knows how to protect themselves.

ZEROpumpkins 08.24.2007 04:02 AM

I think because there are a lot of conservative baby boomer parents.

Alex's Trip 08.24.2007 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
I could imagine public school sex ed being more tramatizing for closet homosexuals (there should be a less technical word but less potentially-offensive word than "gay"). Hearing about hetero sex may increase feelings of isolation, particularly in mid western small towns.

I could only hope that parents would be liberal enough to home-teach these kids about hetero sex (for reference) as well as gay sex, diseases, and acceptance.

EDIT: then again, opting them out could increase feelings of isolation I suppose

Bleh. If my parents tried to teach me safe gay sex while I was still in the closet I think I would have killed myself right there.

SynthethicalY 08.24.2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
Bleh. If my parents tried to teach me safe gay sex while I was still in the closet I think I would have killed myself right there.


I could imagine it, (Nervous Dad): Son, I hhhave, somethiiing to tttalk to you abboout. We-we-well the time is ready for you to-to-to kno-kno-know about se-se-sex.

(Alex Cringes)

Dad: Well, um...um... You see, when a boy your age...see they start having sexual desires...Um...And you may want to mate, when you do-do-do find that partner of yours a man. Remember to wear a condom. I brought a banana and a condom, to illustrate how to put it on.

(Alex dad's demonstrates.)
(Alex Cringes once again.)


Alex's dad: You see a condom can protec-tect you from diseases such as aids, gonorrhea, syphillis, and so on. So whenever you start datine me-men remember to use one. As I have demonstrated with the banana. Do you have any questions?

Alex(embarrassed):No.

Alex's Dad: Ok(exits room.)

floatingslowly 08.24.2007 08:41 AM

if I close my eyes, you can't see me.

tesla69 08.24.2007 08:44 AM

Children need to be fully trained in the use of automatic weapons and explosives before they get to learn the subtleties and pleasures of the erotic life and our society just doesn't respect that.

Danny Himself 08.24.2007 09:07 AM

If you had children, I'd imagine maybe it would make sense.

They grow up so fast. One minute they're playing with Lego and watching The Moomins, then the next they're fucking like bunnies in a most senseless fashion. Not the best thing you want for your kids, especially when you're approaching a minor mid life crisis and your marriage is on the rocks.

atsonicpark 08.24.2007 09:33 AM

they should teach jacking off...

I didn't actually start doing it till I was 16. Wish I'd known sooner. Oh well.. making up for past time, I guess!

FruitLoop 08.24.2007 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
Children need to be fully trained in the use of automatic weapons and explosives before they get to learn the subtleties and pleasures of the erotic life and our society just doesn't respect that.


Indeed. They should hand out abstinence rifles instead of rings, which would have the additional benefit of releasing /channeling the sexual tension, and make for a much bolder statement as well.

jon boy 08.24.2007 10:10 AM

i find the same sort of people who oppose sex education dont agree with giving out free condoms but complain about teeneage pregnancy.

!@#$%! 08.24.2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
I mean really, we all know kids are having sex. So why not teach them how to protect themselves.


because middle america likes to ignore the basic facts of biology and psychology, and treat its young adults as overgrown children with no minds of their own and no responsibilities whatsoever. unless they are poor and black and they commit a crime, then they are tried and sent to jail as adults.

Green_mind 08.24.2007 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Yes, if I were the majority, they would also know about queer sex as well.


I think if you were the majority, we would all know a little bit too much about queer sex. :P

Rob Instigator 08.24.2007 10:56 AM

sex education is suposed to be about procreation and the way it happens, which is why it is taught in health class. it is not supposed to be a primer for details on how to have sex, gay or otherwise.

people are opposed to it ecause many people , in USA, are of the idea that sex for pleasure is a sin, and that sex is only to be done by people trying to conceive a child.

LifeDistortion 08.24.2007 10:57 AM

 


See where an education gets you?

tesla69 08.24.2007 11:39 AM

America was built by breeding teens ... and now we're supposed to just stop?

Washing Machine 08.24.2007 12:16 PM

See I learnt about sex when I was 7 from Daytime Television. My mother has not ever used the word 'sex' in front of me and its certainly never come close to being discussed. I'm quite happy with it that way.

I agree it should be taught in school, in the most removed, clinical and biological sense possible (and teaching of protection is critical). But let the fun parts of sex be discovered for themselves. Thats the way I wanted Sex education. But in fairness I knew it all (including the stuff about condoms and the pill) before they even started. I really dont know how Kids are so shaltered that they dont know how to use a condom.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.24.2007 12:20 PM

My question a few years ago would have been "why do we need it?" Because most of the shit is obvious or common sense.

Then I met catholics who think that you can get pregnant in the most fucking bizarre ways.

Rob Instigator 08.24.2007 01:24 PM

nothing is "common sense"

all you or anyone knows is whate you have picked up from the world around you. if you have never been privy to sex info then you know nothing.

My brother is a counselor in Austin and he says the stupidities and ridiculous bullshit that many high school age kids believe about sex is SHOCKING. Just plain ignorant.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.24.2007 02:06 PM

Well not common sense, but you know. . .

Curiosity to google it. And older friends or siblings who tell them about sex.

When I was a little kid, my one sister couldn't stand that I didn't know anything more than "naked, kissing, in love, sperm somehow reaches the egg"

My school seemed kind of backwards. You get Sex Ed in 8th grade and 11th grade. But they don't put the condoms on the bananas until 11th grade.

!@#$%! 08.24.2007 02:55 PM

they use bananas? when i got tested for HIV the demo dude (we all needed a talk) used a proper dildo. show me someone whose dick is shaped like a banana and i'll show you a freak of nature.

anyway, sex is not just about condoms. the psychological issues that come with it are much bigger than a rubber instruction manual (you can get instructions just from the condom box itself). the trouble is though, that pussy, or cock (depending on your gender or orientations) is gonna put a whammy on you & make you do things you never thought possible. oh yes. more instruction about the power of sex on the brains is very necessary. and oedipal situations like having your parents tell you: nast.

pbradley 08.24.2007 03:04 PM

Reminds me of the rather annoying Fat Worm of Error album Pregnant Babies Pregnant With Pregnant Babies.

floatingslowly 08.24.2007 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
a proper dildo


yr a fucking connoisseur, I'm sure.

"ahhhh, now THAT'S a dildo!" he says with wild-eyed excitement.


I snorted....true story.

Savage Clone 08.24.2007 03:50 PM

He meant "proper" as in the term "prim and proper."

You know, a gentlemanly dildo.

Prisstina 08.24.2007 04:11 PM

because parents want to be the ones to teach their kids. even if the parents give kids the talk, school's likely to teach something different.

i don't oppose sex ed, but i suppose i might be hesitant about it if i had kids.

Rob Instigator 08.24.2007 04:23 PM

parents , it seems, don't want ANYONE teaching their kids about sex, especially themselves. How else to explain the massive amount of stupid idiots out there than think blowjobs do not transmit disease.

Prisstina 08.24.2007 04:54 PM

tis true.

i remember reading a story somewhere in which a strict catholic couple visits a doctor because they can't conceive. the doctor checks them both out extensively and can't find anything wrong. he asks them how often they have sex, and they say they never have. apparently they were under the impression that pregnancy occured after laying next to each other.

Danny Himself 08.24.2007 05:00 PM

I'm Catholic and I'm not a fucking idiot.

Just clearing that up.

Alex's Trip 08.24.2007 05:35 PM

I learned all my queer sex information from Dan Savage, hahahaha.

SynthethicalY 08.24.2007 05:37 PM

Did he show you rimming already?
Or fisting?

k-krack 08.24.2007 05:45 PM

Because it's a sin, you tards.

Alex's Trip 08.24.2007 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Did he show you rimming already?
Or fisting?

Well he doesn't show anything.

He talks plenty. And from the sound of it, sounding is just about the most painful thing I think I've ever heard of.

SynthethicalY 08.24.2007 06:02 PM

After a few tries it gets boring.

Everyneurotic 08.24.2007 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
yr a fucking connoisseur, I'm sure.

"ahhhh, now THAT'S a dildo!" he says with wild-eyed excitement.


I snorted....true story.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Drone
He meant "proper" as in the term "prim and proper."

You know, a gentlemanly dildo.


hahahahahahahaha

after removing the tear from my eye, i can say that...uhh, i learned in like 3rd grade, not like positions or eating pussy or something like that but you know, pretty much everything but positions and eating pussy; then, in junior high, biology class always had like a week or so of sex ed and the kids would approach the teacher and ask about female masturbation and stuff (answer: "it's done with a cucumber").

i think you should learn the basics from neutral educators and then let larry flynt take it from there (really, thank god for hustler and especially barely legal, they were wonderful in those pre-internet days).

Washing Machine 08.25.2007 07:10 PM

I just oppose Ed...

DIE ED DIE!


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