Why do You Guys Hate on Capitalism?
 

I want to know what are your problems with it. I am not defending it 100% but I am saying that it isn't all that bad. Just that unchecked Capitalism is bad, the way it is now.

Who is complaining about capitalism?

Sayin'

yeah. you can choose how to die & all. in socialism, you already know!

hahahahaha

"i like the world, it has dog races and..." shit i haven't seen buffy in so long, you guys know this quote anyway.

capitalism for the win

Crypto! I saw you on the AC board. Talking about getting stoned to Strawberry Jams...

getting stoned to Strawberry Jam?
no, no
but i do like it

What in the name of bleeding Jesus is unchecked Capitalism?

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism
There's nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don't try to make me feel guilty
I'm so tired of hearing you cry

personally, I distrust any school of thought that promotes greed and impatience as virtues and modesty and compassion as vices. but I'm old school like that.

I think its the tendency of capital to get concentrated and the amoralistic power that it engenders that is bad. One of the great things about NYC has always been the 1000's of small independent stores. Lately Manhattan is getting more and more sanitized with every store being part of a chain. In midtown the classic NY deli is nearly extinct, its all one chain called Pax/Europa/City Deli with their $8 premade sandwiches. I mean, I ordered a pastrami and swiss last week and nearly got into an arguement with the guy cuz they served it cold. "You have to ask for a hot pastrami". WHAT!!I"m in NYC!!! Hot pastrami or corned beef is the default! Its supposed to be in a steam table.

One of the more brilliant achievements of western capitalism is our banking system that lends out the same money 7 times (I think thats the current restriction), of course that also has risk. It is one of the reason the West has been able to to move ahead of other societies. not everyone thinks this is great.

Your dollar(pound/euro/etc is a vote. If you want to vote for Bush, you go to Dunkin Donuts (owned by the Carlyle Group). If you want to vote for NYC, you go to Porto Rican coffee traders.

Well said. My problem with Capitalism is that its virtues are the opposite of what is considered good outside of economics. That and the endless consumption of resources it relies on is taking us towards environmental disaster.
And please people, don't treat socialism as if it's synonomus with Communism.

there seems to be a lot of confusion about the two, both on this forum and in the real world. They are not the same thing.

capitalism has become a dangerous and disturbing personal and social economic system that is slowly destroying the world by means of war, destruction of the environment and natural resources, economic slavery, famine, economic collapse and a neglection of human values due to the unmitigated avarice of a select few.

Like a ball made of bleeding flesh, it is leaving a trail of destruction in its wake. I don't remember who said that, but its perfect.

Capitalism is the bastard child of democracy.

blah blah blah Mascis blah

hold your horses... :D

look, all that shit existed before capitalism. in fact, capitalism has mitigated some of those.

regarding "unchecked" capitalism, i think money should not be the supreme value in a civil society. i like free markets, but i do believe there should be some restrictions to them-- slavery, child trafficking, and macjobs come to mind.

anyway i can't stay long and get involved in long arguments today. i thought i'd just jump in and throw my soundbyte into the fray.

"if it doesn't fit, you must acquit"

hmm... :confused:

no??

:D

Once the money gets a higher priority than the people, we know we have a problem.

you hippies dont know shit about economics....and economics is the study of human behavior, which means you dont know shit about yourselves or anyone else.

"The substantivist position (of economic anthropology), first proposed by Karl Polanyi in his work The Great Transformation, argues that the term 'economics' has two meanings: the formal meaning refers to economics as the logic of rational action and decision-making, as rational choice between the alternative uses of limited (scarce) means. The second, substantive meaning, however, presupposes neither rational decision-making nor conditions of scarcity. It simply refers to study of how humans make a living from their social and natural environment."___from wiki

You directed a post at pretty much no-one there.

did I?

Thanks that is what I meant. Sorry for poor choice of words.

 

It's the worst economic system there is... except for all the other ones.

Because the rich get richer whilst the poor get poorer. Capitalism is about convenience and as a society, I beleive, convenience is not what we need right now.

you mean i don't need my 2am lardburger with extra-value fries and a monster-sized shake??? :eek:

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but free markets are nice though. really, think about it. you want government-issued soap? :D

HAHA.

We as a society need to feed off eachother and be more concious of what we purchase. People don't even know why they buy what they buy or how it came about to be for them to buy whatever it be that they buy.

Just sayin'.

But what is sold in your country is soap that your government thinks it's suitable to wash your own testicles, anyway. Your point?:)

YEAH but that freedom of choice (more conscientiously etc) is a FREE MARKET choice. you see? you're proposing use of the market to advance social causes. i'm with you there. i (Try to) only buy products that meet non-sweatshop low-impact standards. i believe there are a lot of people like that. slowly, but it's working.

government monopolies are EEEEEVIL. more so perhaps than "big corporations" who still have to answer to consumers. think about it.

I really don't have that big of a problem with capitalism as a theory as much as I have a problem with the size of the market. A larger market means more money made, more money made means a larger corporation, a larger corporation means a stronger drive for profit, a stronger drive for profit means a search for a larger market and all along this process righteous causes like environmental conservation and human rights are forgotten. When we fully realize globalization, what comes after that?

oh brother when we fully realize globalization we get GLOBAL LABOR UNIONS and the big machine won't be able to take it's sweatshop anywhere. nowadays you want to unionize and they take the plant to sri lanka. but when sri lanka is unionized and making living wages, oh, that's going to be maybe the day we finally see poverty end.

True.

You're a fucking retard.

hell yeah. free minds, free markets.

oh, you poor simple-minded hayden....normally i'd just ignore you at this point...but econ principles are something i stand up for....a question for you:Who produces, distributes, and consumes goods and services? Wombats?...no....try again.

But it isn't studying us producing them. It's studying the effect those goods have on everyone and everything. You're a fucking retard.

No, its about the choices humans make...why does Susan buy this? If Susan had already bought 3 apples at full price, would she buy a 4th if I offered her 50% off? What about a 5th? How many could I offer her for free before she decides that she couldnt eat that many before they spoil?. Why does TopoTopo over in Africa have to walk 30 miles every day to get to work? Why does Laquisha work the streets every night? Why does Bush invade Iraq? ...don't boil econ down to three or four words that you think mean nothing to humanity...

I'm not gonna read that retarded post, retard.