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SynthethicalY 04.22.2007 12:21 PM

Universal Health Care in California?
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines

macrodollar 04.22.2007 01:51 PM

This seems odd to me. A REPUBLICAN governor wanting full healthcare and a DEMOCRATIC administration opposing it. Doesn't California have stupidly low tax?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.22.2007 02:52 PM

 

SynthethicalY 04.22.2007 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macrodollar
This seems odd to me. A REPUBLICAN governor wanting full healthcare and a DEMOCRATIC administration opposing it. Doesn't California have stupidly low tax?



Oh he is a moderate Republican. He isn't that bad since he lost the special election.

Washing Machine 04.22.2007 02:58 PM

I really think its sick that california voting in a Bad actor. Is the average IQ less than 5? I could never imagine having an actor as first minister in Wales. There would be an outrage and rightly so.

SynthethicalY 04.22.2007 02:59 PM

We did vote for Reagan.

Washing Machine 04.22.2007 03:02 PM

Well...exactly. Its so irresponsable to elect someone to political office purely on the grounds of them being famous. What is wrong with people?

Danny Himself 04.22.2007 03:06 PM

I'm sure he wasn't voted for JUST BECAUSE he was in the terminator movies, Washing Machine.

SynthethicalY 04.22.2007 03:07 PM

Well, the only difference is Americans have been dumbed down now. But he isn't that bad, it has a leftist agenda, with a right agenda as well. But yeah I know what you mean, some state voted for some wrestler.

Washing Machine 04.22.2007 03:10 PM

We should have serious politicians not silly little hollywood people running a country.

Why must everything be turning into a freak show. It should be about experience, virtues, inteligence not catchphases and nonsence like that

Alex's Trip 04.22.2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine
We should have serious politicians not silly little hollywood people running a country.

What exactly is it that Arnie has done as governor that is oh-so-hollywood that you don't like? I don't follow politics as much as I should, but I haven't found any reason to dislike Schwarzenegger...

Washing Machine 04.22.2007 03:23 PM

The very fact he was voted in purely on the merits of being a celebrity annoys me immensely. It degrading to politics.

In fact most of the people in the race were either rich or some silly celebrity. I believe people should be voted into office after experience in the political arena, after proving themselves. The whole election was a freak show.

Alex's Trip 04.22.2007 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine
The very fact he was voted in purely on the merits of being a celebrity annoys me immensely. It degrading to politics.

I don't think any of us actually know that.

SynthethicalY 04.22.2007 03:29 PM

Well to get into politics you have to be known. I've yet to see what he has done wrong. I mean he has done a lot of bad stuff, but he isn't as worst as most made it seem.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.22.2007 03:31 PM

IT'S A TRAP!!!

SynthethicalY 04.22.2007 03:32 PM

Crypto I love you in a non-gay thing. But it is not a trap.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.22.2007 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Crypto I love you in a non-gay thing. But it is not a trap.


trust me, ITS A TRAP!!!

Washing Machine 04.22.2007 03:41 PM

I just find the idea of a politically inexperienced hollywood actor who once called his rivals 'Girlie Men' running a state as big as california slightly unneaving. Thats all.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.22.2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine
I just find the idea of a politically inexperienced hollywood actor who once called his rivals 'Girlie Men' running a state as big as california slightly unneaving. Thats all.



yawn, man.
people i know in cali love him.

the knife fight 04.22.2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
yawn, man.
people i know in cali love him.


Well that makes everything ok then?

Danny Himself 04.22.2007 05:35 PM

Well if he's pleasing his constituency...

Washing Machine 04.22.2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
Well if he's pleasing his constituency...


Some people are pleased with anything

Some people read The Sun...Can you believe we let Sun readers Vote?

I find the whole celebrity culture disturbing. Theres something wrong with a culture that worships fame for fame's sake. Just because someone is well known doesnt mean they are god-like creatures that can do anything. I'm really afraid of this culture bleeding into something as critical to our society as politics. We need real, visionary, intelligent people in goverement. We dont need famous faces with funny little catchphrases. There has to be more than face. Government is not just another stage its real. Its about the actual running of a country. I dont think people know the difference anymore. Should we really give such a huge amount of power to someone just because we recogize them from some film we quite enjoyed. The real question is would old Arnold be governor if we hadnt see him in Terminator and The Last Action Hero? The answer is no. Its a issue that goes right to heart of western culture. If I ran for governor (of what is in essense a state the size of a small country) people would question my experience, what makes me think I can just come off the street and run a state? Which is a more than legitimate question. Its funny we dont ask celebrities these questions....

Another point. Does it really reflect well on a state when a its recall election is dominated by actors, billionaires and pornstars? What is California, Fucking Disneyland?

SynthethicalY 04.23.2007 12:47 AM

Well what makes you think that he isn't a brilliant visionare? I mean he is still human, unless all those other politicians are robots:D ? I mean I am not defending him, cause I still don't trust him. Really if you think about it there are famous people who are smart who can better the country.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.23.2007 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
IT'S A TRAP!!!



trust adam weishaupt

SynthethicalY 04.23.2007 12:53 AM

Crypto would you please elaborate on what is a trap?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.23.2007 01:24 AM

THIS is a trap

Washing Machine 04.23.2007 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Well what makes you think that he isn't a brilliant visionare? I mean he is still human, unless all those other politicians are robots:D ? I mean I am not defending him, cause I still don't trust him. Really if you think about it there are famous people who are smart who can better the country.


Yes. If we must have a celebrity, cant we at least have a GOOD actor. It looks most unprofessional to have the star of tripe like Terminator running the state.

LifeDistortion 04.23.2007 02:06 AM

I just find it funny that Republicans constantly whine about how the Democratic party has Hollywood in its pocket, and yet they are the ones who have voted for two former actors for major govermental positions. Remember, Gov. of CA is how President Regan started too, but Arnold can't run for President, yet.

Washing Machine 04.23.2007 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
but Arnold can't run for President, yet.


Thank God!
To have one bad actor in the white house may be regarded as a misfortune; to have two looks like carelessness.

jon boy 04.23.2007 03:01 AM

when i was in california, LA and san bernadino in particular i was amazed at how many people with severe problems there where on the streets and the fact that there was no place that they could go too. also the fact that people really didnt seem to give a shit about them was really awful. i saw a homeless man guy die on hollywood boulevard and he lay there for ages before anyone came for him. not everyone is uncaring or not bothered, so i am not generalising everyone. there needs to be something in place because otherwise things will just be bad.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.23.2007 03:24 AM

that was stupid.

!@#$%! 04.23.2007 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine
Thank God!
To have one bad actor in the white house may be regarded as a misfortune; to have two looks like carelessness.


apparently the governator is quite a pragmatic guy who was pushed back from his extreme positions by the legislature and the people. since he's not the complete meathead most people think he is, he started a swift move to the centre where he's been quite successful. he's one of the few republicans to admit the existence of global warming. he's for stem cell research. and calling for universal health care is what got the clinton government into trouble in their early days.

i predict reelection, and i don't think that would actually be so bad, partisan preferences aside.

o wait, term limits apply i think. so scratch that. but i think he'll be a tough act to follow.

Washing Machine 04.23.2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
apparently the governator is quite a pragmatic guy who was pushed back from his extreme positions by the legislature and the people. since he's not the complete meathead most people think he is, he started a swift move to the centre where he's been quite successful. he's one of the few republicans to admit the existence of global warming. he's for stem cell research. and calling for universal health care is what got the clinton government into trouble in their early days.

i predict reelection, and i don't think that would actually be so bad, partisan preferences aside.

o wait, term limits apply i think. so scratch that. but i think he'll be a tough act to follow.


I do take the point that california could have a much worse governor. I guess my main worry is the kinda of message it sends out. That anyone with a famous face and money can just decide to become Governor.

In fairness I wouldnt stand for a position as high as that without having some prior lower level experience. I think the UK is about as big as California. So from my point of view its like someone being on Coronation Street one second and being Prime Minister the next. The whole thing reeks of insanity and irresponsibility. Arnie probebly has been very lucky so far and has some very good people around him. I just believe major politicians should have experience and should work up slowly gaining the nessassary skills to take on such a big job. And it really is a big job being Gov. of California.

LifeDistortion 04.27.2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine
That anyone with a famous face and money can just decide to become Govenor


Well when you got Mary Cary (pornstar) and Galleger running in the same race, AND Schwaznegger looked like the most logical canidiate, what do you expect? The election was a shame, and the Republican party were responsible, California had a Dem Governor in Gray Davis, and while he didn't cause a lot of the problems he was blamed for (I.E. Power storage, and Defict), he pretty much paid the price for problems he inherited coming into the job.


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