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alyasa 08.06.2006 05:26 PM

How much is insecurity a part of love?
 
I mean, I've seen the lovers, I've been part of the quarrels, the inane, sometimes insane hostility and antagonism... Why do people fall in love? Is it to allay their fears and insecurities? I mean, I know the feelings and emotions that drive relationships, I've just never given much thought to the underlying thought that drives those emotions. And it gets me wondering... Why do people love?

Pookie 08.06.2006 05:34 PM

Love is the most beautiful of dreams and the worst of nightmares.

Toilet & Bowels 08.06.2006 05:35 PM

scientific research shows that in the female brain a chemical is produced after sexual intercoure that is believed to be the chemical that makes women fall in love. i don't entirely believe this though.

alyasa 08.06.2006 05:39 PM

I've also read that males are naturally predisposed to fall asleep after sex, thereby ensuring they do not run away after copulation and the female will have the benefit of someone protecting themselves and their young. So I guess for guys, it's who you can fall asleep with.

jon boy 08.06.2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Love is the most beautiful of dreams and the worst of nightmares.


too godamn right it is.

alyasa 08.06.2006 05:41 PM

It's also not much more than self-preservation isn't it? I guess for all our postulating and theorizing, it doesn't get any better than that, does it? All the romance and gloss, it's just about making sure your seed is passed on. :(

pokkeherrie 08.06.2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
I've also read that males are naturally predisposed to fall asleep after sex, thereby ensuring they do not run away after copulation and the female will have the benefit of someone protecting themselves and their young. So I guess for guys, it's who you can fall asleep with.


that's the first time i heard a scientific explanation for that. it does assume that all men are naturally born bastards though, doing a hit-and-run on the woman if they don't fall asleep right afterwards. :D

alyasa 08.06.2006 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
that's the first time i heard a scientific explanation for that. it does assume that all men are naturally born bastards though, doing a hit-and-run on the woman if they don't fall asleep right afterwards. :D

That much is true.

golden child 08.07.2006 12:13 AM

insecurities are mostly inverted, and the concept of love is being totally extroverted and being selfless to the other person and giving up yourself (which only works if the other does so)

so im sure alot of relasionships are based on insecurities, but if that is so you have to look at whether it is "love", and it very well maybe, just not a healthly, strong, bonding love.

!@#$%! 08.07.2006 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by golden child
insecurities are mostly inverted, and the concept of love is being totally extroverted and being selfless to the other person and giving up yourself (which only works if the other does so)

so im sure alot of relasionships are based on insecurities, but if that is so you have to look at whether it is "love", and it very well maybe, just not a healthly, strong, bonding love.


this kid is wise beyond his years, though i admit i don't understand half of the post. and yet...

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Originally Posted by alaysa
I mean, I've seen the lovers, I've been part of the quarrels, the inane, sometimes insane hostility and antagonism...


what soap opera is that?

alyasa 08.07.2006 12:17 AM

Yeah, I guess if love is selfish and rooted in insecurities, it's because both parties are insecure and selfish, in which case; is it still love? Is an insecure, selfish person capable of love? Or is love completely and utterly pure, like untouched snow? :o

EDIT: golden child, I just realised you meant 'introverted'. I was scratching my head, thinking how insecurities can be 'inverted'.

golden child 08.07.2006 12:24 AM

love is more of a concept, a perfect ideal to reach for.
you may want this perfect love where you are selfless and giving up all those insecurities but no one is perfect, the most primal instinct is your own self interest and your own personal surival so its impossible to be totally extroverted, but its something to strive for and something that can be improved on as a relasionship strengthens. so maybe love is more a willingness and desire to give be selfless even though it isnt always manifested.

!@#$%! 08.07.2006 12:24 AM

oh, introverted? perhaps. but most people act out their insecurities in such an extroverted way....

(just have a look around)

golden child 08.07.2006 12:26 AM

hehe, yeah i guess.

introverted meaning selfish motives, by being so insecure they are worried about their own wellbeing.

alyasa 08.07.2006 12:26 AM

It's totally Hollywood, the screaming and crying; maybe that's why I feel like this love has taken its toll on me... :p

acousticrock87 08.07.2006 12:46 AM

I think the issue isn't so much getting rid of insecurities or solving them, but simply sharing them. Having someone to suffer and enjoy life with in every way, good and bad. Someone that will stay there and not disappear within the slow fade of love, as passing friends and girlfriends/boyfriends do.

alyasa 08.07.2006 12:48 AM

That sounds beautiful... One of the ideals of love... Somewhat amoral though, it may seem...

!@#$%! 08.07.2006 12:49 AM

there's all kinds of "love", but the most melodramatic one is when vapor from the gonads reaches the brain & wreaks havoc with the higher brain functions-- ayayay....

acousticrock87 08.07.2006 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
That sounds beautiful... One of the ideals of love... Somewhat amoral though, it may seem...

The concept is, but personally I think morals are one of the most important things that can be shared in love. They are a prime cause of joy and suffering.
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
but most people act out their insecurities in such an extroverted way....

No kidding. People that do that bug me so much that I think it has established in me an insecurity about acting insecure...

!@#$%! 08.07.2006 12:51 AM

mark my words:

vapors-from-the-gonads


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