I love you for your venom. I'll not bother defending my darling Neko.

I'm astonished at the musical puritanism on this board.

Actually, I'm not, but I'd like to be. I honestly can't understand how any rock fan can claim any electronic music to be devoid of talent when the majority of rock music is no more complex than the third guitar lesson of a twelve-year-old.

This is probably the most patronising I'm ever going to be on this board, so here goes:

I know that it's not only people of a certain (young) age that display the kind of musical puritanism you mention, but I would suggest it mostly is.

I don't know about anybody else, but at a young age I had very specific ideas about what and who I liked and it would take quite some persuasion to shift me off my narrow-minded course.

Yes is does seem strange that somebody would dismiss whole genres, but I find myself being more and more open to new sounds and new artists, and I can't imagine dismissing anything out of hand.

I could go on, but you get the point.

Oh yeah, I was pretty much the same for a while. I was a bit embarassed about enjoying Queen and Erasure and stuff like that.

Some people never get out of that though, do they? I know people in their 30's who still won't listen to anything but American punk.

When watching Video Hits (or similar programs) I can tolerate a great deal of the rap, R'n'B and Pop music but its the rock music I can't stand. At least the rap music and RnB are trying to be the most crunk, fresh or bangin. Popular rock music trys to sound as middle-of-the-road as possible.

same here...

that's a good descriptive answer. add house music to the list.

groovebox djs will tell you it takes talent, Norma J. I've known several that are good musicians that do the dj thing to make money & they say it's complex to keep the arrangements & beats all in your head, so you're counting all the time to yourself to keep it all in order. do i think that's talent? like you, no, no, i do not.

I generally have time and patience for all sort of music but i grew to dislike or have less and less patience for rock/indie whatever.It's not something that bothers me or anything and if something comes along that i enjoy i will grab it and give it a good listen but there is very little that can still be done with the guitar and that's being done by the few out there who are gifted musicians.I'm not too keen on singer-songwriters either as the term itself makes me run for the nearest hill but i grew up listening to all sort of music(and not just rock/pop whatever) so if someone surprises,who am to say no?

Beck is a sometimes entertaining but mostly an annoying musician,by the way.

I'm not into hate.

& I've learned that I can never really dismiss a whole kind of music entirely. I've found there's something to like in almost every genre, and I've gotten into whole kinds of music that I once thought I'd never like. So I'm very careful not to say I hate any music--or anything, for that matter. The only thing I hate is hate itself.

techno. its all the same. and folk music. and the stuff thats popular today

"Songs from the musicals"-type shit - the Cameron Mackintosh / Andrew Lloyd Webber crap.

Anything that is little more than someone showing off their vocal range - Celion Dion, Mariah Carey.

The sort of stuff you hear drifting over from a couple of fields away when there's some travellers' festival in town - Ozric Tentacles comes immediately to mind.

"Soul" music that has no soul - I don't think I need to start naming names.

I'm going to give you bad rep just for mentioning the Ozric Tentacles name and i bet that you are secret Levellers fan too!

Take that back or else!

i don't really hate any kind of music but some music makes me feel very nervous or even sick. think about supermarket or elevator music. ugh.

http://www.conation.com.au/main.html Download the song Anti-Jock Revolution and tell me you don't find it a fucking cool song.

Dutch club/house and Ibiza disco music with screaming bimbo's irritates the shit out of me.