saw Straight Outta Compton (the new movie) last friday and thought it was great.

I have to admit, I like the album. I didn't find much to complain about. The records getting almost exclusively excellent iTunes ratings (which means nothing, since those guys only know how to say "this is 🔥🔥🔥 yo!" or "this is the worst thing ever yo"...

But I'm on the 🔥🔥🔥 side myself. I've only had one listen but nothing pissed me off or made me go "next!"... So we'll see

while it was an enjoyable movie, there were so many inaccuracies. this movie is pretty much PR for Dre, he's trying to rewrite history and sadly a lot of people are going to believe it.

Fucking exactly my OG gangsta homie from that era has spent the past three Friday kick it nights talking about the bullshit factor of this flick in between war stories. I ain't watching it cuz im from the eazy side of it... if anything his fam only gave them permission because they knew it would make dre and cube look bad when all the new folks search the eazy catalog and find albums like 187 Dr Dre Kill Um Its On ;)

Im intrigued

i was really annoyed by how they made Eazy look like a pussy.
easily the realest/not to be fucked with member of the group.

not to mention they implied that his solo career was a failure, while in reality each project of his went platinum.

and of course they tried to pretend that Real Muthafuckin G's never happened. song still hurts Dre to this day!

i've heard good things about the Scarface album. still need to listen.

Re: REAL MUTHAFUKKIN G's

Hey Yo doctor, here's another proper track
and it's phat,
watch the sniper, time to pay the piper
and let that real shit provoke, so you's a wanna be 'loc
and you'll get smoked and i hope that yer fans understand
when ya talk about sprayin me, the same records that ya
makin' is payin me

Mothafuck Dre
Mothafuck Snoop
Mothafuck Death Row
Yo, and here comes me left blow
''cause i'm the E-A-Z-Y-E, and this is the season
to let the Real mothafuckin G's in,

ya like a kid ya
found a pup and now yer dapper, but tell me
where the fuck ya find an anorexic rapper
talkin 'bout who you gone squabble with and who ya shoot
you're only 60 pounds when yer wet and wearin boots

damn E, they tried to fade you on Dre Day
But Dre Day only met Eazy's pay day

all of a sudden Dr Dre is a G thang, but on his
old album cover he was a she thang

so nigga please, nigga please don't step to deez
mothafuckin' real G's

I have never talked much about Eazy-E here, but this is probably the best dis track in rap history. Eazye was incredible.

I haven't seen the film, but I'm pissed that they apparently make E out to be a pussy. Dre and Cube both have put a lot of energy into looking like good, loyal friends who made peace with E. Considering the fact that they shared creative control of the film with Eazy's widow, you'd think it would be hard to "make him look like a pussy" ...

Oh well. I am enjoying the soundtrack, and now I'm in the mood to bust out some E solo records.

yeah that diss is brutal. Dresta and B.G. Knocc Out went just as hard as Eazy.

"Just take a good look at the, nigga and you'll capture
The fact that the bastard, is simply just an actor
Who mastered the bang and the slang and the mental
Of niggas in Compton, Watts, and South Central
Never ever once have you ran with the turf
But yet in every verse claim you used to do the dirt"

"This is going out to you studio gangstas
See I did dirt, put in work, and many niggas can vouch that
So since I got stripes, I got the right to rap about that
But niggas like you, I gotta hate ya
Cause I'm just tired of suburbia niggas
Talking about they come from projects
Knowing you ain't seen the parts of the streets G"

"Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg are fuckin' actors
Pranksters, studio gangstas, busters"

"See young niggas like me will break you off something
Claiming my city but, Dre, you ain't from Compton
Niggas like y'all is what I call wannabes
And ain't shit compared to real motherfuckin G's"

It's an excellent song.

I guess I should see this movie, being a fan of NWA. But I like Dre's Compton album, and I tend to hate fucking biopics (uhh... Ray? Walk The Line? Pretty much everything except for Control? All shit. Embarrassing fucking shit. ... Backbeat was ok, I guess), and I don't want to be pissed off about it.

The record that Dre calls a "soundtrack" (by the way, how does that work? Do songs from Compton really play in the film? Because that would be ... stupid... For a bunch of reasons) is an unexpected gem. I don't like the fact that I like Dre album this much... Still, I don't have high hopes for the film, and I fucking hate most of the people who were part of it. I feel like it will mess up the experience of the record for me.

Then I'll have wasted money, and I'm down a tax bracket or two at the moment, so that'll piss me off as well.

Exactly. If anything us NWA fans were loving Eazy solo shit MORE and he had those tracks with Bone Thugs??

If that movie made him look like a bitch and a failure i hate even more than i did just merely aa a concept! But like i said, Eazy gets his revenge because when all these people look up his discography they gonna find 187 (Dr Dre) Kill Um Its On and Straight Off Da Muthaphuckin Streetz and hear DA REAL

And Real Muthaphuckin Gz is a westcoast gangsta rap masterpiece along with Da Muthaphuckin Real

To be honest, it was the "Dre Day" video and the wanton disrespect with which the Death Row crew publicly treated Eazy-E that initially colored my impression of the character of those artists. Admittedly, I was quite young at the time, but I was old enough to be buying the records and following the story. From a creative perspective, it seemed so low. Who was Dr. Dre without Eazy-E? And to have Snoop playing along... What the fuck business was it of his? Those kind of public attempts at humiliation and character assassination only take place in two social ecosystems: high schools and in the early stages of rap careers, when personalities are formed by allegiances, and media bloated turf wars.

Now I've got myself all wrapped up watching interviews and reading about points of contention surrounding the film...

Christ, Yella is a dipshit, I swear. Obviously he has (had) skills and was a big part of the sound of both SOC and the later material that was so crucial to g-funk, but the guy has the intellect of a fatty corpuscle.

It's sad to listen to him talk about the group's legacy. He's a clueless human being who was clearly running on autopilot for much of his own life. When asked how many times "the '4 Life' album" went platinum, he kinda makes a blowfish face and says something like,

"had to be double... Cause remember it was number 1. It hit at #1, which is... Even today, I believe, is veeeery rare.... Especially for a hip hop album!"

It's kinda hard not to drop your jaw at that. What the hell is wrong with this guy? He also had no concept of the legal or contractual elements of being on a label. He doesn't know when he was or wasn't on or off contract, and has no idea about the rest of the group. It's like he never thought about it.

I also read an interesting (and long) piece on Heller containing a revealing interview. I didn't know Paul Giamatti was playing that role, but I'm sure he nails it.

Well, in the spirit of honesty Eazy actually started the diss tracks and videos...

Dre Day is so trash lyrically, laughable.

Funny, here in the west about the east we like, "i don't wanna hear you talk, shut up and just rap!"

Actually I agree. I was born and raised on the west coast, and I've spent most of my life there, but I have always preferred East Coast hip hop. But still, I get this sentiment. I don't want talking on my rap records. I don't want skits, or a helluva lot of dramatic backstory or narration... but there certainly is a lot of that, and there kinda always has been.

But anyway, I've decided to steer clear of SOC for now. I keep hearing and reading more about the depiction of Eazy, and I'm just not super interested in this film if Eazy-E isn't going to be the main protagonist, or at the very least a character treated with some reverence and respect.

Part of me thinks it's fucked up for an artist to be involved in the making of his/her own biopic. I mean, perhaps as a consultant- yeah. And the estate needs to approve for the bio to be official. But I'm really kind of a stickler about coloring the past to make certain people look good, and to revitalize certain careers.

Coloring/distorting history and selling it is as bad as falsifying scientific data and publishing it.

Maybe if ONE of y'all had something good to say about this flick, I'd check it out. But he'll, I haven't even seen Notorious! I really dislike biopics, and they can be REALLY bad when they're about an artist or group that means a lot to me/you/the viewer (like Biggie and, yes, NWA). Even though I have a lot of bad shit to say about most of the group, the truth is that I am an NWA fan, and I always have been. So far I have no reason to believe this is worth my time.

Just as a reminder that things other than Straight Outta Compton are still happening in hip-hop, I've got to say that I am really enjoying Travi$ Scott's Rodeo.



Stupid ass album cover. Christ, there are so many cool concepts for cover art out there, I really don't know why this lame ass pic was chosen. There was better art out there for Days Before Rodeo too. Why this?

Anyway... I really like the album. I like the way it kicks off ("Pornography" is a truly Kanye-esque moment. The song kinda goes nowhere in the end, but the initial blend of hip hop, dark r&b and post-punk sounds really grabs me), and I love the features (Thanks again to Kanye); not even Justin Bieber can fucking up a track here.

I won't say it's brilliant or anything, but I keep listening and I keep enjoying, while DS2 just totally flatlined for me. I feel like this is closer to a B4.DA.$$-quality major label debut.

Also- who's keeping up with Underachievers? Heir new album is about to drop. I dislike one of the leading singles, but remain hopeful and optimistic. But why the fuck aren't they on Brainfeeder? I thought they signed with FlyLo prior to Cellar Door, but this new record seems to be on "RPM"... No mention of Fly's stories imprint.

Oh, but hey- you all should check out Issa and AK's new single "Generation Z" ... Especially if "Chaising Faith" made you feel a little diabetic like it did me. Pretty hard fucking song, excellent synthy beat.

They need a new album cover concept artist though, for real. This yin and yang shit is just getting tired.

I really have been pulling for these guys since the early months of 2013, before Indigoism had even really launched. And I pushed them and name dropped them and hyped them even when it was unclear whether they'd be able to keep up their momentum. I want them to get work with FlyLo and Kanye, maybe NO ID. They have enough raw skill to own the game. They just need direction.

Everywhere I go I'ma Rep my shit

I *just* realized that he's up on a monster truck, not a motorcycle.

Album cover just got way more lame.

Oh for fuck's sake. If you're going to spam bomb a thread as essential as the café, the least you could do is be funny about it, Rebecca-Genteel-asskiss-floating blah blah. You're tolerable, you know, no matter what form you choose to take, when you're funny. But this... this... fucking incoherent splash of linguistic diarrhea ... this is just uninspired and sad.

lol

Fuck it, Drake & Future collaborative project coming out tomorrow. Let's celebrate.

http://pitchfork.com/news/61274-drak...e-with-future/

this record is fucking awesome


this is also quite awesome


https://soundcloud.com/dkmntl/dekmantelpodcastautechre
this could also be of interest to you guyz, 4 hour mix by autechre of early electro and hip hop. man parrish, newcleus etc.

pepper_green: do you want to get banned again..?

Nevermind the insults directed at me, which I find more amusing than insulting. Hasn't pepper_green got a daughter or son, or so he mentioned on previous occasions? How sad it would be for them to discover what daddy gets up to on the internet after he's had a drink or two. Unless the social services sorted that out for them already.

Hmm..



...



... just sayin'

Oh for fuck's sake, if you two giant egoholes aren't the same person, I'm fucking Margaret Thatcher.

Does anyone else feel that the "PARENTAL ADVISORY EXPLICIT LYRICS" sticker has become more of a deliberate and almost necessary decoration than an actual RIAA imposed rating?

True mixtapes are not made under contract with an RIAA affiliated label. They're often free self-released products, with several different cover art concepts, many of which are fan made. Yet they ALWAYS have the PAEL warning somewhere on the cover. More and more you see it actually drawn into the cover with ink. Or superimposed onto the cover in Photoshop.

It's just, like, damn... Tipper Gore, how ya feeling now? That logo goes on everything! It's a pre-requisite in the hip-hop community. Some of the albums you find it on (like original pressings of 808's & Heartbreak on CD, for instance...) have almost NO explicit material whatsoever. And the mixtapes, it doesn't even matter! Nobody's counting uses of the word "fuck" to see if they can get away with avoiding it like some directors do with the "R" rating.

Rappers just put it everywhere, whether they're swearing a lot or not. And some of the other places it's popped up (like Incesticide, and NYC Ghosts & Flowers) just don't even make sense. It's on the Smashing Pumpkins greatest hits, for fuck's sake. Why?

They should have made a less visually appealing "warning" sign for explicit music. Ever since The Downward Spiral and the Chronic, kids have just seen that logo and wanted whatever it was on.

Maybe Tipper Gore was in with Suge Knight or some shit.

Like, why the hell is it on the Flaming Lips' With A Little Help From My Fwends? Or the Lips' Dark Side of the Moon? What possible reason could there be for that? It's not like the insert is covered in porno.

Whatever.

And you can notice that the acronyms are similar as well:

Watch the Throne = WTT

What a Time to Be Alive = WaTTba

It's definitely a WTT tribute project (if you'd like to call it that..). Nowhere near the actual WTT but I thought it was pretty good. However I have to post the following tweets because I found them hilarious and very accurate:


this album is hilarious because Drake is like 'I have friends' and Future is like 'I've seen the deepest, darkest depths of human nature'

Future: nobody cared about me when I was sleeping on floors and I do hard drugs to fight my demons
Drake: girls are nagging me!!!!

Drake: I am rich and am invited to lots of parties
Future: I almost died drinking lean

Hah! Yeah, I can't help but agree with these. Especially the "I Have Friends!" rub. I feel like Drake has really been trying to drive this one home over the past year. The Ovo Sound 2015 festival (which I could have attended had I not been so, like, "meh, but I'm tired") seemed like an excercise in public coolness-proving. "Hey I'm friends with Ye, did y'all know? And look I'm friends with Future and Travi$ and Ima climb on top of Pharrel's dick like a cougar and make him like me by praising him...

It was kind of like watching a high school movie where a lame kid feels validated because a bunch of seniors kids come to his house party.

Like, maybe he finally realized, after being the butt of a thousand viral jokes in 2014 (Jay-Z dissing, the lint-rolling of the sweat pants, violating NBA contract rules by publicly pursuing Kevin Durant on behalf of the Raptors and costing the franchise $100k in the process, and **missing that free throw!! Oh my god!**) that he was lucky to be taken seriously EVER, and that maybe he should "posse up" a bit just in case.

I am like 0.0% interested in this project.

I still like Drake.. More than I ever have. Really. But the guy's corniness knows no bounds, and I think he is attempting something of a factory reset. He wants people to forget that he cried over Rhianna, and start to focus on how many girls are crying over him!

A couple lines on If You're Reading This... stand out as feeling a bit too forced. Like: "It's just that I'm the one they all wanna be mama"

Oh, is that all it is? Just feeling a little put upon are we? Feeling a little stressed about the fact that everyone wants to be you? Yeah, you sound pretty down.

And: "If me and Future wasn't doing this rap shit we'd prolly be in Silicon getting our billions on"

What? Why are you talking about Future? Seriously, where did that come from? Is he there with you? No? Do you guys have a very public Batman & Robin kind of relationship going on? No? No more than any other rappers who sometimes feature one another? Ok - why are you suddenly talking about Future at the end of this album full of talk about your damn self?

Oh well. I wish him the best I guess. I'd rather hear one finished new Kanye cut than a thousand Hotline Blings but whatever.

"Diamonds diamonds diamonds diamonds on me dancing" ... really? Is that right? Well. Color me impressed.

sev, yr pm's are full

What the hell man? They're ALWAYS full! All I do is delete shit! Ugh. Sorry.