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Savage Clone 11.13.2006 05:42 AM

Sorry, it just gets on my nerves when a 4th-generation American loses his temper and blames it on "being a hotheaded Italian," or drinks too much and attributes it to "being Irish" or some such. There is ethnicity and there is citizenship of birth.

porkmarras 11.13.2006 05:45 AM

Oh totally.I hate white people who weren't born in a palace.You are from the place you were born in so stop blaming this or that on what cage your parents come from.Mine come from a parakeet cage.It's why I shit on my feet.

Norma J 11.13.2006 05:58 AM

Whether Australia sucks, America sucks, or England sucks, one thing for certain is that Porkmarras most definitely sucks.

Savage Clone 11.13.2006 06:03 AM

I just got a little misty there.

artsygrrl 11.13.2006 08:09 AM

In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the anti-American
sentiment and negativity, we should remember England's Prime Minister
Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his
Parliament members why he believes so much in America, he said:

"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many
want in... And how many want out."


....and yes, we are assholes but so are you.

HaydenAsche 11.13.2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Unless you were actually born in Germany and/or possess German citizenship, you are not German. You are an American of somewhat removed German extraction.
I will go ahead and identify as an American despite my Northern European heritage, since my fucking great-grandparents were even born here.


I am the first generation to be from the United States. Even my mother was born in Germany. Piss off, fat queen.

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
I am the first generation to be from the United States. Even my mother was born in Germany. Piss off, fat queen.


shush, gringo... :p

... or should i call you kurt?

HaydenAsche 11.13.2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
shush, gringo... :p

... or should i call you kurt?


I'm just saying I'm no less American than Porky is English.

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 11:17 AM

you mean benito???

HaydenAsche 11.13.2006 11:18 AM

You lost me at 'you'.

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 11:19 AM

ha ha

Savage Clone 11.13.2006 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
I am the first generation to be from the United States. Even my mother was born in Germany. Piss off, fat queen.



Yes, but you were indeed born here, which makes you American and not German, no matter how close you are to the Vaterland.

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 11:22 AM

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
|: Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt. :|
 

HaydenAsche 11.13.2006 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Yes, but you were indeed born here, which makes you American and not German, no matter how close you are to the Vaterland.


You still do not seem to understand, old man. I'm saying that Porky is English by living there. I'm American, yes. I was being sarcastic and saying my heritage makes me German and not American.

Understand now, ya?

Savage Clone 11.13.2006 11:25 AM

I get it, but the analogy is not really apt.
Porky is an expatriate Italian who is native to Italy and living in England, while you are the American-born son of a German-born mother, living in the country of your birth.
Ja.

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 11:26 AM

you meant "ja", kurt?

HaydenAsche 11.13.2006 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I get it, but the analogy is not really apt.
Porky is an expatriate Italian who is native to Italy and living in England, while you are the American-born son of a German-born mother, living in the country of your birth.
Ja.


Piss off.

porkmarrass 11.13.2006 11:31 AM

Off piss.

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarrass
Off piss.


hey hey-- you silly imposter you...

porkmarrass 11.13.2006 11:36 AM

It doesn't matter who came first,what matters is who does the best impersonation.

porkmarras 11.13.2006 12:08 PM

Hayden do you speak german?

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 12:11 PM

i wanna see a catfight between porkie & his troll

please???

porkmarras 11.13.2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarrass
It doesn't matter who came first,what matters is who does the best impersonation.

You can't still be the real one,bitch!

static-harmony 11.13.2006 12:42 PM

you got to give some rep points to sn@ke again.

Glice 11.13.2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sn@ke
n00bs ALL of you.

When you say "Americans" you are referring to people who live in the Americas not U.S fucking A.


There is a very, very large difference between 'correct' formal English and the general vernacular/ idiomatic/ sociolectical English used in general conversation. You are, of course, technically correct. However, I have never known anyone use the noun 'American' to refer to anything other than a citizen of the USA.

In fact, I took the liberty of having a cursory glance at dictionary.com which lists several uses of the word, both in the context you speak of and the more common use.

Sorry. Pedantry is a horrific disease.

o o o 11.13.2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sn@ke
because in Portuguese there is a word for you! and in Italian too, French,etc,etc,etc....


well, the french word you are probably thinking of ("états-unien" instead of "américain") is really rarely used...
i believe it's not comparable to the usage of the portuguese "estadunidense", the italian "statunitense" (i did not know about these two until today, though) and of course the spanish "estadounidense"...

Glice 11.13.2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by o o o
well, the french word you are probably thinking of ("états-unien" instead of "américain") is really rarely used...
i believe it's not comparable to the usage of the portuguese "estadunidense", the italian "statunitense" (i did not know about these two until today, though) and of course the spanish "estadounidense"...


Jeesus. If it's going to be complicated, can't we just get rid of/ ignore the USA and continue with all the good countries (and Wales and Australia), just like God intended?

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 03:03 PM

see, fools, everyone is right here.

sure america is a continent like europe or africa, continents inhabited by europeans and africans. well, people from the american continent call themselves americans.

the problem comes from the fact that
estados unidos do brasil = brasil
estados unidos mexicanos = mexico
united states of america = .... ?

the name came up when the rest of the american continent was under spanish, french or english rule, so it wasn't "officially" anything.

get used to it, the gringos have monopolized the name because the took it first... bizarre, as if there was a country called "united states of europe" which did not include the whole continent, but there you go.

HaydenAsche 11.13.2006 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Hayden do you speak german?


Quite a bit. I used to know more but I haven't spoke it in forever. I only talk to my grandpa and grandma in German as my mother has forgotten almost all of it.

!@#$%! 11.13.2006 03:36 PM

have you ever watched "the boys from brazil"?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077269/

hayden is the original hitler clone :p

Savage Clone 11.13.2006 03:36 PM

Yeah, but the Nazis took care of their queer contingent in The Night Of The Long Knives.

Glice 11.13.2006 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Yeah, but the Nazis took care of their queer contingent in The Night Of The Long Knives.


Oh, Ten Pole Tudor. I bet you thought of that when you typed that, didn't you eh?

Norma J 11.13.2006 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
There is a very, very large difference between 'correct' formal English and the general vernacular/ idiomatic/ sociolectical English used in general conversation. You are, of course, technically correct. However, I have never known anyone use the noun 'American' to refer to anything other than a citizen of the USA.

In fact, I took the liberty of having a cursory glance at dictionary.com which lists several uses of the word, both in the context you speak of and the more common use.

Sorry. Pedantry is a horrific disease.


I do believe your words were somerthing like: "Only a moron would refer to dictionary.com"

Glice 11.14.2006 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J
I do believe your words were somerthing like: "Only a moron would refer to dictionary.com"


You know, I think you're right? You're still a prick though.

Norma J 11.14.2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
You know, I think you're right?


ZING! Whatever that means.

I'm always right.

Glice 11.14.2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Norma J
I guzzle spunk for money.


Spot on. This editing post game is a lark, no?

Norma J 11.14.2006 05:28 PM

Shouldn't that have been "from monkey'?

!@#$%! 11.14.2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norma J
Shouldn't that have been "from monkey'?


die.

porkmarras 11.14.2006 06:22 PM

Why can't tsunamis happen more frequently,i ask you?

Norma J 11.14.2006 11:10 PM

Glice edited 'cause he fucked up and had "... for monkey" HAHA.


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