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porkmarras 11.05.2006 07:32 PM

Yeah that's it but it also has a slang term that i've heard before.

Hip Priest 11.05.2006 07:37 PM

'Scarfing'?

Onani Nic 11.05.2006 07:39 PM

Thats how the guy from INXS died.

Inhuman 11.05.2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
That's an actual sexual practice with a name that i can't remember right now.Don't try this at home, Inhuman.


I'll try my best

strictlycommercial 11.06.2006 06:07 AM

Think a sentence of death by autoerotic-asphyxiation might have raised a few eyebrows.

jon boy 11.06.2006 07:50 AM

if it was televised, would you watch?

Tokolosh 11.06.2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
That's an actual sexual practice with a name that i can't remember right now.Don't try this at home, Inhuman.


It's called Asphyxiaphilia. The practice is also known as "breath play" in the context of a sadomasochistic relationship, or auto-erotic asphyxiation when practiced alone in a masturbatory act.

jon boy 11.06.2006 10:16 AM

you know its not suicide when they have lemon in their mouth apparantly. i learnt that from six feet under.

porkmarras 11.06.2006 10:25 AM

All those names are correct but i'm thinking about how it was referred to by this guy i've overheard talking about it once.It was some silly slang term that apparently does the rounds on the the gay scene.Either way,it's a vile sexual practice.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by king_buzzo
they just reached a verdict and they're gonna hang saddam in the start of 2007. they should have left him in jail for the rest of his life to get raped by prisoners. that would be a worse punishment


im against capital punishment in general. this spectacle, believe me, will not make anything better. there are a lot of people in iraq who still think saddam is a national hero, and they are only going to be further inflamed at these news.

Savage Clone 11.06.2006 01:19 PM

I don't really see a lot of "punishment" in quickly killing someone who basically has nothing left to live for anyway.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 01:22 PM

the whole ideology of "punishment" is a retarded backward thing that keeps creating monsters year after year.

Savage Clone 11.06.2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
the whole ideology of "punishment" is a retarded backward thing that keeps creating monsters year after year.



Well, I'm not sure that "rehabilitation" is all that applicable in cases like this.

"I'm all better now. I'll never become a sadistic dictator with my own country and my own army again, I swear."

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 01:29 PM

oh, i was not suggesting rehabilitation for this former CIA thug.

just that the whole notion that "he should be punished" is as useless as it is myopic. what is it supposed to accomplish, i'm not sure.

static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:06 PM

Well if he can't be punished to death or in a prison cell, then how shall he be punished.

jon boy 11.06.2006 02:08 PM

be naomi campbells publicist?

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
Well if he can't be punished to death or in a prison cell, then how shall he be punished.


please explain to me why a person "shall be punished" for their crimes, and what "punishment" means, and what it accomplishes.

static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:12 PM

A person should be punished because they deserve, it simple as that. As for what punishment they deserve it depends on where they are and how that culture punishes people. It also gives people who lost lives some closure.

porkmarras 11.06.2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
please explain to me why a person "shall be punished" for their crimes, and what "punishment" means, and what it accomplishes.

Don't push it ^&*%%%^!

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
A person should be punished because they deserve, it simple as that. As for what punishment they deserve it depends on where they are and how that culture punishes people. It also gives people who lost lives some closure.


that's a knee-jerk response if i ever saw one. what does it mean to "deserve" punishment, exactly? i'm not saying saddam should go free. i'm just asking you to look beyond the automatic response into why we think the way we do about these things, and figure out if it makes sense.

here's a little background reading on the subject.

static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:16 PM

We think like this because we are animals, and animals have revenge in their bodies. It just comes natural to us to think people deserve what they did.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
We think like this because we are animals, and animals have revenge in their bodies. It just comes natural to us to think people deserve what they did.


well for animals revenge is immediate and more of a defensive behavior than a "revenge". revenge seems to be a human thing-- best served cold, etc-- of course we are animals too.

my objection to this automatic reaction however has to do with the fact that an ideology of punishment seems to be the greatest manufacturer of social and psychological ills. if you are "bad" then you "must be punished". the funny thing is that this social ideology generates inordinate amounts of self-hate in individuals (see for example hayden asche's latest bout of self hate, in which he becomes his own "punisher" for his perceived "faults"-- sorry hayden but i just remembered that).

self-haters tend to gravitate towards crime, addiction, and violence-- which is supposedly what punishment is designed to avoid. yet it only creates more situations that require "punishment". so while some fruits of "punishment" seem to satisfy immediately, the seeds of the ideology only create more of the same. are you aware or how many people live in u.s. prisons these days? oh yes they are getting "what they deserve". uh-huh...

Savage Clone 11.06.2006 02:27 PM

Actually, the "greatest manufacturers of social and psychological ills" are probably breeding/overpopulation and religion.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Actually, the "greatest manufacturers of social and psychological ills" are probably breeding/overpopulation and religion.

well, religion is #1 into "punishment" and "sin" and "going to hell", right?

porkmarras 11.06.2006 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Actually, the "greatest manufacturers of social and psychological ills" are probably breeding/overpopulation and religion.

Some might think that collecting dentist chairs is the sign of a society that has gone too far.

static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:33 PM

I have to agree with savage on this one. But !@#$%! prisons are overcrowded because less criminals who did something wrong are not being killed. I think capital punishment is not as bad as people make it seem. I say murder should set you for capital punishment.

Savage Clone 11.06.2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Some might think that collecting dentist chairs is the sign of a society that has gone too far.



Perhaps, but it was free and so very very awesome.

porkmarras 11.06.2006 02:40 PM

In that case.........

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:49 PM

anyway, expect riots & further terrorism when saddam hangs

in the meantime, the cost of the iraq war has surpassed 340 BILLION dollars

http://nationalpriorities.org/index....per&Itemid=182

i figure this hanging will add up significantly to the tab

static-harmony 11.06.2006 02:52 PM

I never understood, why killing someone costs more than keeping them in jail.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
I never understood, why killing someone costs more than keeping them in jail.


you should try doing a little research.

anyway, funny i just found this prophetic text....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...110762,00.html


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