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hat and beard 09.16.2006 11:06 AM

a thousand leaves was the first sonic youth album i bought and it remains my favorite, with the possible exception of bad moon rising.

atsonicpark 09.21.2010 10:37 AM

I think this is their best since daydream.

the ikara cult 06.06.2011 07:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5_kjR55eY

the finest sy slbum

Jeremy 06.07.2011 03:43 PM

I love this record, aside from the worst batch of Kim songs on any SY record before or since.

Her grunting destroys all of her songs and her lyrics are especially awful on this one. Why did some of the songs need to even be so long? Did they really demand it?

~Jeremy~

deflinus 06.07.2011 05:41 PM

great album. one that contains two of my favorite Lee tracks

The Watcher 06.07.2011 05:47 PM

I think this one, NYCG&F and SYR 5 are my least favorite SY records...... I really like Sonic Nurse, Murray Street, Eternal and Rather Ripped but the aforementioned ones have never done it for me....... Just my $.02 no hate yo......

Pelle 06.08.2011 10:59 AM

One of my favourite albums and one of the first I heard by em.

Sunday is defenitly on my top 10 fav SYsongs.

EVOLghost 06.08.2011 12:51 PM

Hmmm It's a bit a little while since I"ve listened. Butyeah. I love it. Lee kicks a lot of butt here. Hoarfrost and Karen Koltrane are fantastic. Karen Koltrane is my preferrred Karen song.

Pelle 06.08.2011 01:12 PM

I maybe have missed something really big, but is Karen just a character that they have made up or is it in fact a real person it is about?

Genteel Death 06.08.2011 02:30 PM

One the best recorded, produced and engeneered SY records I can think of. Noise has become such a burden when it comes to describing this band, considering musique concrete I hear on a bunch of these songs a lot. I ain't cheap listener like most of you, you know.

Ghostchase 06.08.2011 04:25 PM

This and Murray Street are going to be my next purchases from SY. Hey seems that the British magazine "The Wire", that actually has some creditable opinions unlike the other British music magazines, voted it their favourite album of 1998.

donnie 06.08.2011 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
One the best recorded, produced and engeneered SY records I can think of. Noise has become such a burden when it comes to describing this band, considering musique concrete I hear on a bunch of these songs a lot. I ain't cheap listener like most of you, you know.



I aint cheap either, bub

atsonicpark 06.09.2011 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
One the best recorded, produced and engeneered SY records I can think of. Noise has become such a burden when it comes to describing this band, considering musique concrete I hear on a bunch of these songs a lot. I ain't cheap listener like most of you, you know.


Agree with most of this.

God I love this album. It has that BAD MOON RISING autumn-y vibe, but it has the maturity they were starting to develop on Washing Machine, and it is actually a really creepy album, though not as creepy as NYC and some of their early stuff.

Just all around, an amazing album, such a good sound, such good and unique instrumentation/musicianship. AMAZING production. Even the album cover is astounding. Kinda unbelievable this complete package came out on a major label, too.

Just amazing.

SonicBebs 06.09.2011 02:41 PM

for me, this is them at their peak. This, NYSGAF and Murray St are why i love sy so very much. (and washing machine...)

it truely changed the way i think of music

Chris Lawrence 06.09.2011 03:36 PM

I'd really love to know what people find "amazing" about the production of this album. The imbalanced instruments? The lack of any low end? The fact that every song sounds like it was assembled from multiple takes?

Don't get me wrong, I love this album (now!), but I'm always surprised when people sing the virtues of its production. There's something about the *sound* that's identifiable, but I wouldn't call it good production...

wim 06.11.2011 03:54 AM

i think by good production most people mean it sounds good. maybe it's not good production "by the book", but i agree the sound is really special on this one. if you listen to female mechanic on headphones, it's simply awesome..

for me atl is one of their best albums. maybe the songs are not their best, but as an album it's really well crafted.

Chris Lawrence 06.11.2011 09:16 AM

I'm the opposite, I think it's one of their best group of songs but that the album itself is not particularly well crafted! (But over the years I've come to appreciate the album itself more and more...I should probably just stop posting about it...)

Actually, thinking about it, any time I post negative comments about this album I'm really just picking on two or three songs. Songs that I really like but don't like the track chosen to represent it on the album. I shouldn't let my disappointment in those songs (expectations based on hearing earlier live versions) lower my opinion of the album as a whole. I did eventually stop listening to live versions of new songs, though.

ann ashtray 06.11.2011 06:49 PM

Was the first Youth album I bought (something like 11-12 years ago). Still remember the first time I listened to it and being completely blown away. I was expecting something a bit punkier, based off of what few tunes I'd previously heard (Dirty Booty on Beavis and Butthead being one), and got something completely different and ultimately better. Still my favorite record. I don't think I've listened to music the same way sense.

Mortte Jousimo 06.14.2011 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
I'd really love to know what people find "amazing" about the production of this album. The imbalanced instruments? The lack of any low end? The fact that every song sounds like it was assembled from multiple takes?

Don't get me wrong, I love this album (now!), but I'm always surprised when people sing the virtues of its production. There's something about the *sound* that's identifiable, but I wouldn't call it good production...


I also love the production of this one (well I think there´s not any badly produced Sonic album altough the Eternal has almost too modern sounds to me, but luckily only almost, I think it´s only drum sounds, the guitars are perfectly recorded as always!) I just love so natural sounds of ATL. And I´ve always got same feelings from the album as I got from autumn, so I listen it every autumn!

Mortte Jousimo 06.14.2011 09:16 AM

The favourite five SY albums at this moment:
1. Sister
2. EVOL
3. Made In USA
4. a Thousand Leaves
5. SYR 9.

I think those all five have something in common.

wim 10.04.2011 07:17 AM

hi chris,
i'm interested to know which songs :) (and also to know to which live versions your refer)

i read/heard somewhere that the end of female mechanic was lifted straight from a live recording? don't know if that's true or if i imagined this..

also, i listen to a thousand leaves on CD mostly, it doesn't work well for me on LP, as i really enjoy its length.. (which somehow comes across better when you don't have to flip/change records)



Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
Actually, thinking about it, any time I post negative comments about this album I'm really just picking on two or three songs. Songs that I really like but don't like the track chosen to represent it on the album. I shouldn't let my disappointment in those songs (expectations based on hearing earlier live versions) lower my opinion of the album as a whole. I did eventually stop listening to live versions of new songs, though.


noisereductions 10.04.2011 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
I'm the opposite, I think it's one of their best group of songs but that the album itself is not particularly well crafted! (But over the years I've come to appreciate the album itself more and more...I should probably just stop posting about it...)

Actually, thinking about it, any time I post negative comments about this album I'm really just picking on two or three songs. Songs that I really like but don't like the track chosen to represent it on the album. I shouldn't let my disappointment in those songs (expectations based on hearing earlier live versions) lower my opinion of the album as a whole. I did eventually stop listening to live versions of new songs, though.


I think you nailed my thoughts. Remember all those bootlegs from ATL-era where they'd just play these songs as instrumentals (along with a dreamy "Anagrama"?) God! Those shows were so great. And then ATL just sounds... not as good. If they released a live album from this period called ATL LIVE, I'd probably think it was a much better version of the album.

noisereductions 10.04.2011 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wim
i read/heard somewhere that the end of female mechanic was lifted straight from a live recording? don't know if that's true or if i imagined this..


you read that on this very site from Chris L himself. (sonicyouth.com/mustang)

" In fact, part of the PBS version was used on the album. SY were so pleased with their performance of it on the Sessions show, they used about half of it on the album cut, splicing it onto the end of what they'd recorded in the studio (the sound is much muddier and hollow than the PBS broadcast sound was, though, which is odd if not intentional...). "

E. Noisefield 10.04.2011 07:01 PM

I can never decide if this is my second favorite SY album or not (Murray? Daydream?) but it's definitely one of my favorite SY albums, and probably a top 3 of the '90s for me. Every song is great, and that album alone contains about five of my favorite SY songs ever.

Perfect album.

woofwoof 02.07.2012 10:00 AM

What's the best bootleg for ATL-era live shows? And no torrents if that's poss


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