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Lurker 07.17.2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sellouteater
My drug problem
I love drugs but can never get any. no one sells in my town any more. I have been forced to use inhalents and and shit loads of allergy pills just to have some fun. It sucks.


You can get high off allergy pills? Wow! Is it particular brands or any of them? What about nose sprays?

trance feeeedback 07.17.2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sellouteater
My drug problem
I love drugs but can never get any. no one sells in my town any more. I have been forced to use inhalents and and shit loads of allergy pills just to have some fun. It sucks.


If you want a cheap high, just go to your grocery store and buy some cough syrup(DXM). I am anti-drugs(don't consider mushrooms and other natural things as drugs though), but when I was younger I tried this, it sucked for me but if you are desperate enough to use allergy pills and inhalents, then you will probably like it.

Lurker 07.17.2006 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by krastian
shoot my parents ;)


Hmmm

_slavo_ 07.17.2006 11:49 AM

I only do weed and hash

afterthefact 07.17.2006 12:27 PM

don't do drugs, or this might happen to you!

 

HaydenAsche 07.17.2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sellouteater
My drug problem
I love drugs but can never get any. no one sells in my town any more. I have been forced to use inhalents and and shit loads of allergy pills just to have some fun. It sucks.


Try DXM as mentioned above. I used to have fun with that stuff.

Cantankerous 07.17.2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurker
You can get high off allergy pills? Wow! Is it particular brands or any of them? What about nose sprays?


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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Try DXM as mentioned above. I used to have fun with that stuff.

that shit is for kindergarteners.

HaydenAsche 07.17.2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
that shit is for kindergarteners.


Saturbitch, the idiot was using inhalants.

finding nobody 07.17.2006 02:16 PM

look at this bitch!!

 

Style 07.17.2006 05:16 PM

Dramamine is another legal high. You can research it, it's a hallucinogen, with reportedly vivid real hallucinations. It's recommended you take caffeine so you don't pass out and sleep through the experience.

eatmychild 07.17.2006 05:19 PM

That's probably just a birth mark.

Massenvernichtungswaffen 07.18.2006 10:22 AM

i'm gonna smoke a bowl right now and see if i can see my own aura. i hope the evil spirits don't also see it.

EMMAh 07.18.2006 11:25 AM

I just smoke weed. Lots and lots of weed.

touch me i'm sick 07.18.2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by trance feeeedback
If you want a cheap high, just go to your grocery store and buy some cough syrup(DXM). I am anti-drugs(don't consider mushrooms and other natural things as drugs though), but when I was younger I tried this, it sucked for me but if you are desperate enough to use allergy pills and inhalents, then you will probably like it.


he's right you know. it get's you fuuccckeed but the problem is that it can last up to like literally 8 hours and at a certain point you just want to go to sleep

Heroic Dose 07.18.2006 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurker
The stuff about cancer is just what I hear so my sources are shit on that but I watched this prgram about the psychosis stuff. You have to be genetically inclined but it does happen.

I read somthing recently saying that the reason that marijuana is banned was originally because the Christian Church didn't want their followers taking it. Marijuana used to grow naturally in Britain and the Pagans took and it was part of their religion/spirituality but when Britain was converted the Church didn't like it because the experience it gave, it didn't fit in with the Christian religion but did with Pagan one.


I think MJ along with Hallucinogens quickly became illegal after studies of it showed how much they get your brain thinking outside of the box. They take off the blinders by letting yourslef outside of yourself and all of your preconceptions so that you can see the BS.

Obviously not every thought is like that, it's up to you to filter, but the govt is scared of consciousness forming drugs and yes MJ is classified as a hallucinogen (obviously mild) but properly classified at that.

Heroic Dose 07.18.2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by screamingskull
i really want to do some Acid experiments, my parents talk about dropping acid and going to great gig's in the 70's all the time, it sounds great, y'know unless you have a bad trip.


It's not for the fint of heart or mind (taking it in public and going to shows). I would suggest building up comfortability first in controlled environs with good friends. Hell I've seen SY on LSD everytime except once and I've seen em about 10 times now. It's great for the right band but I would recommend half doses or less for public.... I like being confortable and don't want to be sitting along the back fence or back of the club cuz I'm flying so high.

screamingskull 07.18.2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroic Dose
It's not for the fint of heart or mind (taking it in public and going to shows). I would suggest building up comfortability first in controlled environs with good friends. Hell I've seen SY on LSD everytime except once and I've seen em about 10 times now. It's great for the right band but I would recommend half doses or less for public.... I like being confortable and don't want to be sitting along the back fence or back of the club cuz I'm flying so high.


i know its going to be pretty bad at first, and i will probibly throw up/pass out etc etc, but i still want to try it.

Heroic Dose 07.18.2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
i never will do acid again. if i were you i would stay well away from it. your parents probably had some good shit in the 70's probably pharmacutical not like today when its mixed in someones bath or shed. it can make you very depressed so my advice is stay well clear.



Every illegal drug has potential to be fucked up bullshit. There are good and bad of evverything and it's up to you to finding trustful sources. I have partaken in some really incredible pure ass liquid l s d lately. I haven't got bad stuff in 10 years! The purest is easily aas smooth and relatable to a good smooth shroom trip. No achy muscles, no bad stomach shit, easy to go to sleep on etc....In fact the 'natural' shrooms can be just as toxic and horrible as any other low quality end of whatever drug family.

Heroic Dose 07.18.2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh
I really enjoyed Alice Dee years ago. I never had bad trips, and no flashbacks... yet! *crossed fingers*
The last time I took it was like 7-8 jears ago.
I don't do it anymore either, 'cause I have nothing left to learn from it.
When I think about it now... my first trip was the most educational and didn't really need the ones after that.
It's risky stuff to take and there's no garantee you'll come out of it in one piece.


Me too, no bad trips at all....some challenging ones, and some difficult moments, but no horror stories...even talked some people down from the hard ones.

BUT

Even though realistically yes, you don't need anymore, and you have taken some great life changing exps from it, THERE is always room to learn more.

Heroic Dose 07.18.2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by screamingskull
i know its going to be pretty bad at first, and i will probibly throw up/pass out etc etc, but i still want to try it.


So I'm guessing you are saying you have never done it before? It won't necessarily be bad. Do you have any friends or friends older siblings who have done it? It's all about setting yourself up in the righht situation. Have you ever smoked pot before, that should be first and foremost as a warm up exp.

Inhuman 07.18.2006 03:08 PM

I'm quitting all the heavier stuff. Took Datura last night and hallucinated tornadoes outside. I kept twitching and I still am. Every once in a while grounds, ceilings, the sky, and walls turned pitch black and all objects were white cross section like in 3d modelling programs. I'd look into the mirror for 10 minutes straight and see myself and look at him as if I was talking to him. Fucking scary

Heroic Dose 07.18.2006 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman
I'm quitting all the heavier stuff. Took Datura last night and hallucinated tornadoes outside. I kept twitching and I still am. Every once in a while grounds, ceilings, the sky, and walls turned pitch black and all objects were white cross section like in 3d modelling programs. I'd look into the mirror for 10 minutes straight and see myself and look at him as if I was talking to him. Fucking scary


I've got a Datura story that you don't even want me to go into detai about. It could be a short book! Short of the story, thought it was weed tea and didn't know it was gypsom weed tea!! One shot glass full and it was made way too strong(with the seeds which C Castaneda claims to be the devil's part).....out of reality for 8 hours....off in lala land for 2 days...

There is definite need to be careful when taking hallucinogens of any sort as they are a very powerful experience!


I've quit the heavy stuff, but that to me is the bad families of drugs.....I merely like mental drugs ie: weed and hallucinogens....no whites, never done the H, meth is the most horrible drug in the world......talk about horrible comedowns! only powder I woudl do is DMT (hallucinogen), maybe an occasional valium.....and maybe just maybe given the right circumstance and knowing I'm going to be doing some pure good shit I would maybe do some X.

Inhuman 07.18.2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroic Dose
I've got a Datura story that you don't even want me to go into detai about. It could be a short book! Short of the story, thought it was weed tea and didn't know it was gypsom weed tea!! One shot glass full and it was made way too strong(with the seeds which C Castaneda claims to be the devil's part).....out of reality for 8 hours....off in lala land for 2 days...

There is definite need to be careful when taking hallucinogens of any sort as they are a very powerful experience!


This was my first time taking a large amount of Datura. And yeah, the originating plant from datura can get people high from simply cutting it open. I think I'll stay away from them for a while

Heroic Dose 07.18.2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman
This was my first time taking a large amount of Datura. And yeah, the originating plant from datura can get people high from simply cutting it open. I think I'll stay away from them for a while


Yes very powerful shit!! Did you take the flowers or plant stems or leaves (hopefully not the seeds!)?? I think I read taht the flowers were the least powerful. In the book The Teachings of Don Juan by C Castaneda there was some talk about Datura in there.

For those who like naturals you should check out the basementshaman.com

Naturals are real important to take and prepare in specific ways. The internet can help with that :)

trance feeeedback 07.18.2006 04:13 PM

Could anyone tell me their experiences with amantia muscaria?

Inhuman 07.18.2006 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroic Dose
Yes very powerful shit!! Did you take the flowers or plant stems or leaves (hopefully not the seeds!)?? I think I read taht the flowers were the least powerful. In the book The Teachings of Don Juan by C Castaneda there was some talk about Datura in there.

For those who like naturals you should check out the basementshaman.com

Naturals are real important to take and prepare in specific ways. The internet can help with that :)


I'll check it out! And yes, I smoked the seeds :S. I heard that if you get it frest and drink the liquid inside the pod that it can easily kill you from the intensity

Heroic Dose 07.19.2006 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman
I'll check it out! And yes, I smoked the seeds :S. I heard that if you get it frest and drink the liquid inside the pod that it can easily kill you from the intensity


The guy who gave me some (he boiled the seeds) apparently ended up in the hospital almost poisoned to death! He drank an 8 oz glass....I took a swallow! Yes be very careful with naturals that aren't the norm...norm meaning primarily mushrooms (amanita muscara is a type of mushroom I think)!

gmku 07.19.2006 11:36 AM

I'd probably smoke weed if the lawman didn't scare me shitless.

trance feeeedback 07.19.2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Heroic Dose
Yes be very careful with naturals that aren't the norm...norm meaning primarily mushrooms (amanita muscara is a type of mushroom I think)!


Yes amanita mucaria is a type of mushroom, I have noticed you can buy these off the internet. I was wandering if anyone knows if it is a good idea to buy them off the internet?

Heroic Dose 07.19.2006 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by trance feeeedback
Could anyone tell me their experiences with amantia muscaria?


One of the most amazing mushroom trips I have ever had I saw crystaline butterflies with pastels swirling through them, I also saw a pyramidal prism with the rainbow spectrum shooting through it just like the Dark Side of the Moon album cover NO SHIT I SWEAR TO GOD!!! I'm not embellishing that one bit!! I actually felt like I was on a natural Xstacy loving everything around me and telling my friends how much they meant to me.

I had to pay a price first though and got sick for about 30 minutes! To have a great psychedelic exp you must surrender yourself to the hallucinogen and be willing to play the game because it can be very unconfortabel at times. If you fight it, that's when it becomes even more uncomfortable; but when you embrace it and LET GO, that's the point when the magic happens!! It's not always fun, but if you commit yourself to it then magical things can happen. The above exp I said fuck it and ate more than I could handle basically but was up for the challenge and was rewarded intensely :) It has taken many a mushroom trip before I had the beautiful experience listed above.

I think I like L s d so much because it is like a math equation and if it is pure, then the experience is very similar or at least I know what to expect. Mushrooms are very chaotic meaning they effect differently each time even from the same batch taking them at the same place with the same people. BUT the potential for new worlds is much greater with shrooms and they can take you to higher planes of ecstacy and revelation!

Heroic Dose 07.19.2006 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by trance feeeedback
Yes amanita mucaria is a type of mushroom, I have noticed you can buy these off the internet. I was wandering if anyone knows if it is a good idea to buy them off the internet?


I don't think you can actually by the grown mushroom can you? I think it is just the spores. So if you plan on making a closet setup, buying spores would probably be fine, but you may end up on some list!! ....might not be a great idea :)

Massenvernichtungswaffen 07.19.2006 11:44 AM

Amanita Muscaria is an odd odd buzz. Yes, that old fly agaric can make one quite aggressive and it tends to make pain non existent. I've only done it once, but I remember running through the forest thinking I was some kind of marauder or something. Jumping from tree to tree, it felt like I could have done anything and it wouldn't have mattered. It's not really very good in the halluncination department compared to the psilocybe varieties. The main drugs are muscomel and ibotenic acid which I believe to be deliriants.

they are hard to find and there are many look-alikes that are seriously poisonous. the ones to look for red and blood-orange. avoid any other colours, like green, brown, yellow, white.... unless you want a painful death.

amanita pantherea is apparently also somewhat safe, but I would do some research first.

death caps are amanitas... amanita falloides

death cap for ugly

Cantankerous 07.19.2006 11:44 AM

i just take acid, i don't fuck with any of that plant shit. fries your brain if you do it too often.

trance feeeedback 07.19.2006 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Heroic Dose
I don't think you can actually by the grown mushroom can you? I think it is just the spores. So if you plan on making a closet setup, buying spores would probably be fine, but you may end up on some list!! ....might not be a great idea :)


I don't know if it's the spores or actual dried up pieces, here is the link, but I have found it on other websites too.
http://www.basementshaman.com/ammusflyagmu.html

Heroic Dose 07.19.2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Massenvernichtungswaffen
Amanita Muscaria is an odd odd buzz. Yes, that old fly agaric can make one quite aggressive and it tends to make pain non existent. I've only done it once, but I remember running through the forest thinking I was some kind of marauder or something. Jumping from tree to tree, it felt like I could have done anything and it wouldn't have mattered. It's not really very good in the halluncination department compared to the psilocybe varieties. The main drugs are muscomel and ibotenic acid which I believe to be deliriants.

they are hard to find and there are many look-alikes that are seriously poisonous. the ones to look for red and blood-orange. avoid any other colours, like green, brown, yellow, white.... unless you want a painful death.

amanita pantherea is apparently also somewhat safe, but I would do some research first.

death caps are amanitas... amanita falloides

death cap for ugly


The ones I'm most familiar with and love the most are generally white stems with a copperish, gold or silver cap. The average ones are copper looking caps but the best and most fiercest are the light gold or silver caps. I love those!!

Satur9- Oh honey, they all fry your noggin a little bit except DMT.

Heroic Dose 07.19.2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by trance feeeedback
I don't know if it's the spores or actual dried up pieces, here is the link, but I have found it on other websites too.
http://www.basementshaman.com/ammusflyagmu.html


WELL SHIT!! looks like they are grown, dried and ready to go!! Maybe this variety isn't on the illegal list!!

trance feeeedback 07.19.2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Heroic Dose
WELL SHIT!! looks like they are grown, dried and ready to go!! Maybe this variety isn't on the illegal list!!


Yep, I have done research here: http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanita...itas_law.shtml and it says they are unregulated by U.S. law. But do you think it is a good idea to buy them off the internet?

Heroic Dose 07.19.2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by trance feeeedback
Yep, I have done research here: http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanita...itas_law.shtml and it says they are unregulated by U.S. law. But do you think it is a good idea to buy them off the internet?


Well I've bought other botanicals from basement shaman and they were very nice and well packaged, well cured etc... As far as list go, you'd probably be one in thousands!! I'd say go for it (and let me know!)

By the way our new CD (skiesfalling) is intended to be listened to while tripping!!

http://sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=3674

trance feeeedback 07.19.2006 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Heroic Dose
Well I've bought other botanicals from basement shaman and they were very nice and well packaged, well cured etc... As far as list go, you'd probably be one in thousands!! I'd say go for it (and let me know!)

By the way our new CD (skiesfalling) is intended to be listened to while tripping!!

http://sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=3674


This place has more amanitas available, this place even has bufo alvariuss for sale(how do they ship them?!?!?) Have you ever experinced the bufo's venom?
http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.co...oad-p-368.html


skieisfalling is good music to listen to even when you are not tripping, because just the sounds can send you tripping!

skiesfalling 07.19.2006 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by trance feeeedback
This place has more amanitas available, this place even has bufo alvariuss for sale(how do they ship them?!?!?) Have you ever experinced the bufo's venom?
http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.co...oad-p-368.html


skieisfalling is good music to listen to even when you are not tripping, because just the sounds can send you tripping!


Never done the Bufo venom but have done san pedro, something called the sun opener, and some other lovely smoke that was semi-ecstacy feeling...it was very nice! we mixed it was some shamanic tobacco as well....much fun!


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