what would I moderate? I would just try to keep things sorted out. Limit the disrubtions in parts of the board where they don't belong.

And where is this currently a problem (I just looked at all 4 areas, and they seem to be in order)?

i agree with CHABIB. if we start having USER MODS, then that automatically draws a line and creates a "parent/child" culture here and let's face it, not all "parents" are decent, most probably have more prejudices than their own kids.

let's also remember that once one of our own friends here becomes a USER MOD, you will end up having user mods that have particular friends that may not like other mods and that also creates disharmony within the group of user mods.

i think CHABIB has handled it very well, really can't ask for anything more. chabib may have indifferences politically, ethically or even morally, but he seems to be willing to set aside those differences if he sees someone is willing to change.

i'm just afraid that people will ban me because of my statements and beliefs, and that will certainly happen with user mods.


to add: if you're complaining about how boring or bad the threads are, then why don't some of you people stop relying on the rest of us and start making threads that you think people will talk about.

your mother doesn't work here, so stop acting like it's going to get done by someone else.

just for the record: do we need any more PIXIES threads or any more "WHAT IS KIM GORDON'S PANTIES ABOUT?"

boards aren't always going to be fun 100% of the time, but what i've seen lately is that the old users like myself sometimes have a hard time relating to the younger users here. chances are i'm not going to say a whole lot about "high school starts on monday" because i graduated in the early 90s and it isn't something i wish to post on.

as far as drama and threads you don't like, just ignore it. posting on them just to get on people's nerves is just causing more drama.

I post on a forum where they edit your spelling mistakes, and delete posts that are syntactically dodgy, regardless of content. It's great. I wouldn't want it here, because it's not appropriate. 'Disrubtions' are pretty much all this board has. 'Disrubtions' is a synonym for distraction, which is a result of boredom/ stasis. I personally think the problems come when it all gets too meta-, or it all gets too cliquey. The clique sires the resistance, even though the resistance is inchoate and erratic. Essentially, I bear witness to the catatonia of mass-boredom. In more serious terms, it's a sub-sociological nightmare that fascinates and repells more than scat-porn.

How about "ignoring the topic". seems to work for me, but not all of us are as strong minded.

And a few threads on here have been interesting of late.It's up to you to decide if you have something to contribute to them or not.Personally i prefer a real conversation on myriad topics with an actual person than waiting for a response from someone in Vietnam.But that's a different story alltogether.

problem is this: what you think "belongs" may not feel what others think should "belong".

I could just be a more mod council kind of thing. I do know the inherent dangers of freedom a rogue mod causes.

Then why even have sections? Why even have a different board? Why don't we just have one big board with anything and everything goes?

I am not into user moderation either.
Yes, I am sort of down on the board right now, but I have seen it bounce back from the abyss before. Free speech means some inevitable crap will occur, but who am I or anyone else to say who gets to say what?
As fun as it sounds in theory, I don't really think it would be that interesting in practice. I am not interested in banning anyone, though the ignore button will probably come into play more.
Cliques are inevitable, but they don't have to be territorial and combative. I also think friendly ribbings need to be received in the spirit they are given more often than they are. A lot of stupid bickering could be avoided if people could learn to enjoy being on the receiving end of a good zinger every once in a while. CHOUT is extremely good at this.

you seem to be the only person on the board who wants "mods". nobody else really wants more than CHABIB being a mod.

try using a little self-control, try just ignoring threads you don't like. just because you don't like a particular thread does not mean nobody else will. obviously if these theads are being bumped, then there is somewhat interest in them.

it's not too hard to just ignore threads. i ignore all the "PIXIES vs SONIC YOUTH" threads all the time, i don't even look on them, i just move down to the next thread.

seriously, it isn't that hard. if you can't do that, then you're going to have alot more problems in life. what are you going to do when you have a co-worker you don't like? rat him out to your boss? hate to tell you but that isn't going to solve anything. it would actually cause more trouble for you because people would look at you as the rat, not trust you, and also your bosses would actually rather see you go than the person you rat because bosses don't respect "rats".

Well, if I'm the only one that wants mods, then I guess I'm the only one. And no, I'm not going to run the habib everytime someone steps on someone else's toes. I wouldn't do that even if we had user mods. It would be up to them to decide. Not goaded into it by someone complaining.

You're a fucking dickbag, dickbag.

What is that? Some kind of grammar forum? That's crazy.

SY37, it doesn't matter how hard you try to stop it once and for all, there will always be the people that juist wanna start arguments/etc. just do what (many) others do, and take it with a grain of salt. who gives a shit if some nameless dudes start up lame posts in a thread that was something decent. if you wanna keep a discussion on for a while after the threads fucked, than message them and continue fon instead of complaining and provoking these harrassers.

I really did just give the most elaborate setup ever, didn't I?


That Atlantic Ocean is your best friend right now.

then if you're the only person here that wants "mods", why would you want to do something that is not going to go well with the majority or rest of the board?

I do realize that it is impossible to stop. I just got sick of it and needed to speak my mind.

''And what about us?''

''And us?''

''And me?''

''And us?''

Old habits die hard. I am beyond glad I am esconsed this side of the ur-barrier 'Atlantic'.

"...and me?"

WORD.

Also, no one here is capable of being a moderator. I think the people who complain all the time would delete posts and even board greats such as Atari had their limits. If anyone was capable of doing it it would be me and AB simply because we wouldn't moderate. It would be the old board basically.

CHABIB is doing a wonderful job.

Mentally handicapped jokes are MUCH FUNNIER than racist jokes and much more acceptable.

You are an idiot.



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User mods would fucking suck.

Yes they would.

ill admit, i miss the more civil ways but i am totally against mods.
to anyone who is with me, just make worthwhile posts yourself.

the reason people make gay threads is because there are no other threads for them to post in, so make some good ones for them. im not nearly as active on this forum as i once was but if you want nice threads, make nice threads.

who said this was a joke? suck my...nevermind.

Yeah !! Words don't hurt me....but that cock suckin' does !

Yikes !!!

There are times when people are under personal attack when some kind of instant moderation is desperately needed, because for all the 'it's only the internet so it doesn't matter' cries, this is still a community of people who are real, whose feelings on the internet are largely the same as in 'real life'. If you feel that you have formed even one or two friendships here then that's proof of that fact.

User moderation is not the answer though; as chabib says somewhere, this forum is largely successul as somewhere where people gather and hang out. Perhaps (probably) it's to do with my politics, but I can't understand why people want to be monitored, edited and admonished by a higher power; other boards on the internet actually, for the most part, have more instances that require moderation, and the fact that they have a moderator is a part of that. The presence of power encourages naughtiness, for want of a better word.

Also beware of that fact that the actions of moderators are as likely to offend as they are to please.

I believe that there have been times since the new board was set up that we have very much needed a moderator to warn or serve a temporary suspension, but we have gone without. But in the most part this is a nice place, and it really is easy enough to ignore those users or threads that cause you irritation or offence.

On a slightly irrelevent note, I also don't want a user moderator for a more personal reason; I think I know who it might end up being, and I would have to leave the board if I were right (by choice, as a rather silly 'protest', but I would have to). I don't really want to do that, as I feel I have a few friends here too.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Hip Priest again."

But please, let's let this whole die topic die now, and just get on with improving the board by just being more positive instead of constantly moaning.

Yeah, I know, I've done my bit of moaning over the last couple of days, but I've seen the light now.

How would you guys like me as a "USER MOD"?

Ok, then. now do you understand why we all don't want "user mods"?

not everyone here gets along and there will always be people who don't get along with certain "user mods" and believe me, personal feelings will eventually get the best of the "user mod" to the point where things are taken personal.

NO!
We don't need user mods.

make everyone a user mod, and let pandemonium ensue!

All annoying posters should be gang raped.

that might be fun

i agree this has gone far enuff. maybe we should all get a grip and just go back to listening to music and discussing cool shit again......

i sugest, all go and listen to silver session real fucking loud the whole way thru t=right now and then return to the board!!!

user mods, nah... more cons than pros for me.

hahaha. Pass them around like a peace pipe at an Indian gathering.