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read the traveler damnit!
I have noone to talk to about it on these boards! |
also don't fucking spoil endings. i'm not saying someone did but i started reading a post and then its direction was headed towards here is the end and i said oh fuck out loud to my pet iguana Yogurt who didn't even blink and so i mashed keys until the back button was hit. Yogurt is doing fine though.
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Aiming to finish Brave New World and start/finish Call of Cthulhu tonight with some trying to read my 1,200 or so pages for my Greek History Mid-term tomorrow.
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i'm mostly reading zines nowadays, but i just started snow crash and it's pretty great so far.
i picked the divine comedy. great book. |
Read some Platonic dialogues.
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So, I finished both those tonight. So, over the my 4-day break, I intend to read Dracula, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, The Time Machine, and Cannery Row.
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Lovecraft, but really you should run not walk and find Jim Marrs' new one The Rise of the Fourth Reich. Fascinating stuff, I've already learned the uranium used in the nukes, if not the nukes themselves, dropped on Japan probably came from the Nazis, and the Germans probably used nukes against the Soviets.
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brave new world was underwhelming, wasn't it? |
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Very. I wasn't expecting it to come close to 1984 at all, but I wasn't expecting it to be like it was. I will not be recommending it to anyone. |
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See, I would argue that there are some things that there's no essential need to read. Plato's writing is so entrenched in large slews of Western philosophy that you don't even need to read him. Nietzsche, yes. Plato, no. There's a few subtleties and nuances that you'll miss without reading Plato, but you're life won't be enriched any by ploughing through. Seneca's Medea, that's what you want. |
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see, but i'd argue that reading plato is necessary to know the enemy & where he came from. seneca's medea? i had never heard of that. hm, that got me interested... |
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I'm staying away from ancient texts at the moment because I'm currently up to my ass in Herodotus, Thucydides, and Tacitus
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I think the table metaphor is fine, but philosophy isn't a table. The root of Western epistemics isn't an object, it's manifested everywhere. I'm not saying one shouldn't read Plato, but as he's everywhere already, you don't really need to rush to read him. |
Perhaps if you are already familiar with Western contemporary philosophy but most aren't. Either way SY 37 looks like he's already Greeking out and I'd probably agree with you if I weren't in the middle of this Plato seminar class.
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Fair enough. I'm probably biased because I'd read odds and sods of philosophy before I got to Plato, and he seemed a bit tepid by that point. It was only a little bit later that his import struck me, but even so, it's probably the case that he's too important to consider seriously (he says contentiously) with 'new' eyes (although, obviously, there've been a few in the 20th-century who've tried).
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I'm reading Dracula right now. I just realized that the courtyard is well-lit enough to read at night. Total win.
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The book of matches was from the club, on earth, that they were at right before the earth got destroyed. They assumed it was a planet, but were wrong unfortunately. |
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I voted for it as well for that reason |
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I liked it better the second time I read it. |
A Portrait.
Read what you want, but for the love of God don't read Dracula. That piece of shit was the biggest waste of time. The first 50 pages (Harker's Journal) are ace--essential reading, maybe. Then it's like getting slapped in the face by a frilly diary every single page. Cthulu might be worth reading first, though, cause it's incredibly short. Unless you're setting aside the whole Penguin "And Other Weird Stories" thing or something, but I wouldn't read more than a few at a time. |
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You'd be better off learning Italian first if you're going to read Cantos. If you're planning on attacking something that intense, you're probably inclined enough to take the time. 'Real education must ultimately be limited to men who insist on knowing, the rest is mere sheep-herding.' |
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I read 1/4 of A Portrait about 2 years ago as I was trying to read Ulysses the first time, then stopped reading it when I stopped reading Ulysses. Call of Cthulhu was read in about an hour last week. It was great. I found a 3mb text file of Lovecraft on Project Gutenberg that I will make my way through in due time. I read 90 pages of Dracula today. As you said, the first bit from Harker's diary is good, but the rest has been meh at best. Lucy and Mina's diaries and letters are boring me to tears. Quote:
The verse translation of Inferno (even with flipping to the explanation pages at least twice per page) is among my top 10 favorite things I've ever read. |
I just finished Gene Wilder's book Kiss Me Like A Stranger
i liked it a lot. very interesting read if you're a fan |
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Wow, I'll definitely be picking this up. Gene Wilder is probably one of my favorite actors ever. |
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Everything by Lovecraft is more-or-less of equal quality. It's good to read a few at a time, though. Savor it throughout your life. As for Inferno, I dunno. Maybe it's just me. I was really excited the first time I read it and got a nice leather-bound Harvard edition of the Divine Comedy, and I think I did enjoy it, but I was just a little disappointed. I was also just starting to get into literature so I may not have had the patience and training I needed. No doubt, it's one of the greatest works of all time, but from what I've heard from people that read it in the original, it's far more enjoyable untranslated, especially if reading it for the purpose of breaking into Eliot/Pound. I don't think the translation gives you quite the "tools" you need to pick up direct references. Either way, I didn't like it enough to continue to Purgatorio. Maybe I should read a more modern translation. And maybe skim through the first part of Machiavelli's History of Florence so I don't have to consult notes as much. And Dracula: I kept waiting for it to get better and it never did. There are a few promised scenes, but they're brief and surrounded by boredom. Renfield is the sole reason I kept reading, but I'm not sure whether I'm glad I read it or not. I guess there's merit in reading everything, but it will be tedious. |
Portrait is a very different book to Ulysses. I always give portrait to the sorts of people who would hate Joyce because of Finnegans Wake or Ulysses and it's generally well-received.
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Part of why I liked the Inferno so much I do believe is that I read it about 6 months before I was going to Florence and the 3 or so days I was there I went Dante crazy. It was just a big thrill for me that I felt I needed to read all the Divine Comedy but lost interest halfway through Purgatory, then picked up Ulysses.
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The reason I was reading it at the same time was because the copy of Ulysses I was reading, a previous reader had written a "How to read Ulysses" guide in the front blank pages and they suggested that if it was your first time reading Joyce that you read Portrait first, so I half-followed their anonymous advice and tried to read it at the same time, but graduated before I could make much headway into Ulysses and I had to return it. |
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you'll definitely love it, man. im just a big fan of mel brooks, gene wilder, richard pryor. all of those really great comedies. Stir Crazy is seriously one of the most funniest movies i've ever seen. and he does talk about filming it in the book. he's a really interesting guy. he has class. and he loves women. |
"the alchemist" by paulo coehlo
"Illuminatus trilogy" by robert anton wilson |
call of cthulhu too
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I love all those Wilder/Pryor movies (yes, even See No Evil Hear No Evil) and I cannot watch Blazing Saddles while keeping a straight face for more than a few minutes. Gene seems like a really ace guy. I'll have to make a special effort to get this. |
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Ulysses is a sequel to Portrait. |
That's an exceptionally tenuous sense of 'sequal', but not entirely inaccurate.
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isn't it hard to type q, a and z with yr pinkie finger up in the air like that? |
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You don't seem to have any problems typing with your whole head in a slightly darker place than the air. lulz |
at least my head-space is still dark; yr's seems to be full o' sunshine, stretch.
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The Trial by Franz Kafka....
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Dracula is a good one too...
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Today's purchases:
Complete Stories and Poems - Poe The Hound of the Baskervilles - Doyle The Doom that Came To Sarnath and Other Stories - Lovecraft That was the only Lovecraft book they had :( |
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