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no offence taken, !@#$%!, those are genuine words of concern & i often think the same.
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yes, yes you are, don't blame the drug for the irresponsible use by your younger brothers and sisters. marijuana is not a criminal offense where i live and at a guess i would say at least one house in every street in my state would be growing, everyone i know that smokes weed is still just as productive as ever, don't blame the drug, help the people you are worried about. blaming the drug is like blaming a gun without human action it is inactive and useless. i have smoked pot for 16 years, i hold down a well paying job have respect from my peers, compose for professional theatre, it isnt the drug, it is the person Who are you to wave your finger? You must have been out your head Eyehole deep in muddy waters You practically raised the dead Rob the grave to snow the cradle Then burn the evidence down Soapbox house of cards and glass so Don't go tossin' your stones around You must have been high Foot in mouth and head up ass So what ya talkin' 'bout? Difficult to dance 'round this one 'til you pull it out, boy You must have been so high Steal, borrow, [reefer save your / reaper, savior] shady inference Kangaroo done hung the juror with the innocent Now [you weep in / you're weeping] shades of chosen indigo Got lemon juice up in your eye When you pissed all over my black kettle You must have been high! Who are you to wave your finger? So full of it Eyeballs deep in muddy waters Fuckin' hypocrite Liar, lawyer - mirror, show me what's the difference? Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent. Now... [You weep in / You're weeping] shades of chosen indigo Got lemon juice up in your high eye * When you pissed all over my black kettle You must've been... So who are you to wave your finger? Who are you to wave your [mighty / many / fatty] fingers at me? You must have been out your mind [Weeping / Weep in] shades of indigo Shed without a reason [Weeping / Weep in] shades of indigo Liar, lawyer - mirror, for you what's the difference? Kangaroo [bestowed: "he's guilty as the government" / be stoned, he's guilty ask the government ] Now... [You weep in / You're weeping] shades of chosen indigo Got lemon juice up in your eye Now when you pissed all over my black kettle You must've been high! Eyeballs deep in bloody waters Eyeballs deep in muddy waters [Ganja police / Got to believe / ??] you must have been out your mind |
Terminal Pharmacy, please read my whole thread. I believe I personally said that some people are fine smoking pot.
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Good idea I'll go smoke some crack right now and then die from the following WPW attack, which my mother has and is genetic. Even if I don't have WPW, I'd probably get an acute asthma attack from hell. (I'm not asthmatic but I get acute attacks from smoke and allergens) Drugs I've done before: caffeine anti-hystamines and other anti allergenics alcohol mild pain relievers acid reducers anti-biotics that is it. I generally like to be myself and be in control of my own emotions and feelings. Caffeine turns me into a nervous wreck, anti-hystamines turn me into a zombie, pain relievers make my stomach hurt, and I haven't noticed any side effects from Zantac- not that I take it that often. I do like the effects of alcohol, but I use heavy moderation because of what I have seen it do to a lot of people. I enjoy the tastes and the social aspects of drinking much more than the effects. I don't really like the "if it makes you happy" argument. Drugs don't really make you happy, they just make you feel happy. I'd much rather have actual feelings than induced ones. |
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good to know atari 2600. i always stayed away from the needle but wondered sometimes.... i knew some guy a few years ago in tennessee that was pounding the oxy. i hope hes ok. m "it moisturizes my situation and it preserves my sexy" p diddy on proactiv |
There's nothing wrong with the spliff... Like there's nothing wrong with alcohol. But anyone watched Leaving Las Vegas? Or Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas? Recommended viewing for drug users of all ages the world over...
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Never thought I'd say this, but there is some sense in this boy's post. Let's cut away all the physiological, sociological, and psychological bullshit, shall we? There is a right way and a wrong way to do dope. If you don't know the difference, then for the love of god, stay away from it. |
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yeh dope can turn you into a really messed up person who has to lie to get people to like them because their own life is so unbelievable shit. |
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Have we made our point yet, fuckbag? Keep it up. Makes not one bit of difference to me. |
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so whats the point in that thread then? you may find it hard to believe but not everything is about you. who said i was addressing you anyway? the majority of dope smokers i know are ok. when i was younger there were people who smoked all the time, literally. they got seriously burned out and it was an effort for them to do just about everything. it was kinda funny in a way to watch them walk around, they were so slow. |
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Hey hey hey, Smoke weed everyday.
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So I talked to my little brother today:
Me: You are mentally addicted to pot Him: So what? I'm never going to quit. I've had withdrawal before, it is really horrible. Me: come on, it is harder to quit masturbating Him: No its not Me: try to quit masturbating for a month Him: Pot is better than sex, an orgasm lasts 2 seconds Me: Yeah, but blue balls is no funny issue Him: So what Me: Anyways, smoking pot is bad for your lungs, you have asthma, and it has gotten worse since you started and now you have to go see a specialist Him: So, pot is worth it Me: Worth getting lung cancer? Him: you can't get lung cancer from smoking pot Meanwhile my sister is yelling at me: No matter what you say to him, it isn't going to change his mind, leave him alone! She is 18 and she got him into pot, she claims to be quitting, but she won't say anything to him. Maybe I should have them talk to Suchfriends, he is pretty much a walking talking anti-drug. |
Mr Julian - I can sympathise with what you're saying, but unfortunately, unless you're careful you run the risk of alienating them, which would be worse.
I used to work with a chap who was worried about his daughter. She was a proper pot-head mess. Pretty girl gone wrong, lethargic, all that lot. He decided to let her smoke in the house. So long as she was with him. He made her whitey every night for a week. Not that I approve of this approach, but by God did it ever work. Part of the thing, sometimes, is rebellion, and your Dad smoking with you really ruins that. She smokes now, but she's a lot more sensible about it. A happy ending, of sorts. Now. Just for the records: Speed - is a good drug on those very rare ocassions you need to stay up. Everyone knows speed freaks are worse than smack heads, but it's not that bad very, very ocassionally (spend more on it is my advice). Crack is rubbish. Ten minutes of 'I AM GOOOOOOOODDDD!!!!' and three days of 'i am death'. Coke is a waste of money, only worth it if you want to destroy all semblance of personality or ocassionally have quite exciting sex. I've never done H, but I know a few relatively well adjusted people who get by alright. They're not theives, they hold down jobs. They are a very small minority, however. Acid is great fun, but more than any other drug, don't do it regularly and respect it like it were your life. Mesc: Is one of the greatest things on God's earth. But take it with extreme caution. This is true of most hallucinagenics. In fact, don't take it, it's a mindwarp. DMT: You can't get this regularly enough for it to be a problem. Do it a few times in your life and then boast about it to your friends. Booze: Respect the booze. Learn your lessons young - throw up, make a dick of yourself. Learn the lessons and grow up to be a proper drinker. I could go on - part of the thing I want to get across here is that the culture attached to weed, more than any other drug, is that people think it is 'ok' more than any other (perhaps with the exception of booze). It's not ok. It'll wreck your life if you let it. Pill heads are usually smart enough to know what they're doing, and the honeymoon period rarely lasts more than a couple of years. Booze has a social function. The other drugs are fun rarities. I contend that weed is dangerous because 'youth culture' has a habit of ignoring the fact that more people than not use weed and become apathetic, antisocial and in a lot of cases paranoid wrecks. This is my experience, I've done all the well-known drugs (apart from horse) and a few obscurities, and I honestly think weed is the most dangerous (nb I've given up everything apart from booze, fags and ocassional ket or acid since 2 years). |
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to !@#$%! again BRAVO! (it's no rag against you atari, it's just that it's the perfect post) |
 The new 'cool' thing to do around my area is to be edge just for the pleasure of it. I considered it, but then asked myself whether I would be able to tolerate a life without drugs or alcohol. I ended up saying fuck it, drugs and alcohol are my friends too. It would be hard living without Weed and Datura, let alone alcohol. |
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Haha there are so many straight edge kids around here! |
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except for the "liking all drugs" bit, i agree with this post entirely. now some of my thoughts: i've never played music with more than a little buzz from drinking, the drunker i've been is once i was beginning to lose balance while onstage but i've never been drunk while playing guitar, mainly because i think it's a waste of time, i don't feel inspired when i'm drunk, i mostly feel horny and destructive, not creative. the one time i did weed and jammed with people, i felt like i was the guitarist in creed, meaning like the most uncreative simpleton of a musician, just trying to hold my own and try to play something that i knew sounded like crap with people playing out of time and out of tune and doing this super exaggerated expressions like "this music is SOOOOOOOOO great!!!! we should smoke pot everytime we jammm!!!" while it sounded like four deaf idiots. i don't like to smoke weed because it makes me introspective and lazy and that's something i battle every fucking day, i don't like to take something to make me feel this way. also, i don't like weed because pot makes most people think they are better than people who don't burn, they think they have this amazing superhuman perception of reality that's beyond what a normal person has and that's a load of crap. people on weed are elitists by nature and i hate that kind of people (for proof, look at suchfriends, even though he really came thru on his last post on the holocaust thread, and remember how marley used to be when he first came on the board?). i knew a girl who did crack, i met her when she started doing that shit, she was really funny and sarcastic and had a band and had a great voice, later on, she became this lazy moodswinging fuck up who didn't care about anything other than freebasing and bitch about her boyfriends or lack of boyfriends, i lost track of her two years ago, i last saw her on the msn messenger where she told me how she was fine and happy and shit, but it seemed very forced to me. i hope she's doing ok. i had some rough times lately, and i've considered doing drugs, but i don't even get regularly drunk because of my problems, so getting hooked up on something dumb doesn't seem like it's something that can happen to me, i guess it has to do with personality. i really hope your brother and sister get better, julian. |
i used to go thru sxe days, one day, in the morning, i would magicmark an X on the back of my hands and wouldn't smoke, drink or pursue girls, out of some kind of temporary insanity i guess. and as soon as the Xs would start to fade away, i would go back to smoking and drinking.
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I know! I went to a concert at babylon once, and the guy in front of me had X's all the way up his arms, and he was wearing a shirt that said "xXx FUCK DRUGS AND ALCHOHOL. 100% STRAIGHTEDGE". It seems to be pretty big in our area! |
I smoke pot everyday, but leave it for after school and weekends.
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i have to ask: so now sxe kids are like paramilitary terrorists groups? i wouldn't be suprised if people in like boston start bombing liquor stores |
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haha. I guess the lack of substances drives them insane |
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It's huge! I think it's died down a bit though (at least in my school it has). |
Why does eveything need to be 'cool'? "I don't drink or do drugs...but that means I'm uncool. I know, I'll start a D.A.R.E club!...No, no...I'll call it straight edge!" :confused:
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most straight edge people i've seen are some of the most repressed, ready to blow up persons i've ever encountered, outside of some hassidic jewsih people. being that uptight is not ok.
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haha exactly. Some of the younger people in the group that I hang out with seem to do it because it's 'cool', and then some of the ones I'm closer to actually do it because of the effects themselves. But the WORST thing around here is people claiming to be Bi. There's are waayyyy too many people that claim that their bisexual just to be cool and follow the trend.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...did=364 05432 blah. Way too many of them. A good 95% of them say they're bi just because they're part of the scene. |
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Oh yes, lots and lots of people claim to be bi around here. I almost never believe people when they tell me they are, it's a joke. |
Scenes are everything now. Even to say "I'm against scenes" can get you labeled into some anti-trend bullshit. It's almost enough to keep your mouth shut about what you really are just to avoid getting classified, but it's worse to hide it so you just have to allow yourself to be classified and not give a shit. That's why I admire bands who look like sell-outs and take the heat for it when they really aren't.
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That's it.I love this man! |
The widthdrawls from pot are not horrible, at most, for me at least when I was smoking everyday and stopped I couldn't sleep as well for a couple of days and didn't have as much as an appetite, and all of that went away soon. They just sound like irresponsible brats to be honest. Yr. description of them sorda reminded me of the characters off of the movie Kids. Maybe they'll grow out of the irresponsible use of it everyday and go to more responsible use everyday or whatever. Don't have much else to say except I wish I had a blunt now....
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I find nothing wrong with pot or people using it.
"Pot Culture," on the other hand, is without question one of the most cartoonish and repellently lame so-called "subcultures" I have ever witnessed, d00d. |
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The not being able to sleep is the worst part haha, it's not too bad went you don't have to go anywhere the next day though, then you just sleep the day away :cool: |
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i agree, straight edge kids get a huge boner from feeling better than others. makes up for the attention that their mother didn't give them. |
Marijuana can cause problems. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. Maybe not as bad as alcohol, cigarettes, cocaine, LSD, heroin, ritalin, etc. But it can cause problems with some people. Your siblings just seem too young to handle the effects of marijuana. That is why marijuana should only be for responsible adults, like alcohol and tobacco. I know that a lot of adults who use those products don't always use them properly but still. Teenagers minds are still developing and smoking pot can fuck some of that up sometimes.
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Bill Maher was just on Letterman tonight promoting his upcoming Amazon.com half hour internet show. New episodes of Real Time are still due on HBO on August 25th.
Ode to our sound byte culture: The truth is rarely black & white. He made the statement that "drugs are good & religion is bad." Illegal drugs are indeed overly maligned, but to categorize them as uniformly "good" is not correct since they are a tool only to be used ideally at certain times & not abused & most are difficult not to abuse. Religion, especially the religious right, may be "bad", but to label all religion in this manner is highly irresponsible as well. He chided Dave for being coffee-dependent & used the word "benign" (just as I did in this thread) to describe marijuana. |
if there is a prob it's in people, not in pot. i am smoking pot, well not all the time, but still maybe lot more than some people who do. i smoke pot in the morning the most. it just feels better for me. and i am not a caveman looking jock with weird sandals who never wash himslef. i make music, play in several projects out of my band, work in media, have social life, write poetry and make photographs. yes, i dripped out of uni, but it was kinda my choise, becuz i couldnt afford it going both to work at the paper and go regularly to class. i just have to make both ends meet, becuz my parents are not able to make it for me. pot was good with it and me all the time. so it's not the pot itself but the personalitiy. as savage clone said there is use and abuse.
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