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SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
 


Apparently even the Dead Sea has more women than Pittsburgh...


ouch, that hurts

alyasa 05.24.2006 02:58 PM

What you gon' do with all that junk?
All that junk inside your trunk?
I'ma get, get, get, get, you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my mumps.
My mumps, my mumps, my mumps, my mumps, my mumps,
My mumps, my mumps, my mumps, my lovely little lumps. (Check it out)

I drive these brothers crazy,
I do it on the daily,
They treat me really nicely,
They buy me all these ices.
Dolce & Gabbana,
Fendi and NaDonna
Karan, they be sharin'
All their money got me wearin' fly
But I ain't askin,
They say they love my ass ‘n,
Seven Jeans, True Religion's,
I say no, but they keep givin'
So I keep on takin'
And no I ain't taken
We can keep on datin'
I keep on demonstrating.

acousticrock87 05.24.2006 03:03 PM

Someone played that song on the jukebox at a pool hall last night...I've lost all hope in pop culture.

Glice 05.24.2006 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
What you gon' do with all that junk?
All that junk inside your trunk?
I'ma get, get, get, get, you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my mumps.
My mumps, my mumps, my mumps, my mumps, my mumps,
My mumps, my mumps, my mumps, my lovely little lumps. (Check it out)

I drive these brothers crazy,
I do it on the daily,
They treat me really nicely,
They buy me all these ices.
Dolce & Gabbana,
Fendi and NaDonna
Karan, they be sharin'
All their money got me wearin' fly
But I ain't askin,
They say they love my ass ‘n,
Seven Jeans, True Religion's,
I say no, but they keep givin'
So I keep on takin'
And no I ain't taken
We can keep on datin'
I keep on demonstrating.


I love this song. I like old-school songs for the dancefloor. Dancefloor songs BEP do bestest.

I've said it before, and no amount of indie kids whining is going to change my opinion.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 03:19 PM

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I know a lot of whiny indie kids that like that song.

As I've said before, I don't like mainstream rap with the exception of outkast.

acousticrock87 05.24.2006 03:23 PM

I do understand that stuff being used for dances/clubs, and don't get me wrong, I have no problem with people liking it. I don't mean to diss the song itself or anyone that listens to it - I hate when people think everyone needs to have the same taste. It's just not for me. Especially while I'm trying to play pool.

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Conservative college? All of those girls would probably hate me for my views on corporations and my some of my more communist leanings. Not to mention my thoughts about how the last good president was FDR and that progressivism died with him.


wow, we have diametrically opposite political leanings. laissez-faire all the way.

krastian 05.24.2006 03:28 PM

Ha ha....you do it to yourself, you do....and that's why it really hurts, you do it to yourself.:D

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
wow, we have diametrically opposite political leanings. laissez-faire all the way.


I think there is a fine balance between laissez-faire and government regulation. If you have 100% laissez-faire- you get all kinds of dirty dealings, kickbacks, monopolistic practices, etc. If you have too much government regulation, you can hurt the profitibility of a business.

There are benefits and drawbacks to all political systems. Ultimately, in politics, I want to see people who understand this and understand balance in this imperfect world where idealism is foolishness.

It is like this in every aspect of government. If abortion was illegal, girls would attempt it themselves and die. It would be just like prohibition in this day and age.

The real question of politics is: what is the best we can do? I have no fricking clue even how to start answering that question, as most people do- because people either base their politics off of idealism or fear.

Trasher02 05.24.2006 03:51 PM

Let me put it down this way.
Every pick up line i've used hasn't worked. But you know this is offcourse the pick up line's fault pfuh yeah.

acousticrock87 05.24.2006 03:52 PM

Jeffery Wigand dominated Brown & Williamson without the government. It's not necessary to have the goverment deal with it, but it is safer. I'm for laissez-faire, but it's not perfect.

And I changed my mind, politics is a really bad pick up.

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I think there is a fine balance between laissez-faire and government regulation. If you have 100% laissez-faire- you get all kinds of dirty dealings, kickbacks, monopolistic practices, etc. If you have too much government regulation, you can hurt the profitibility of a business.

There are benefits and drawbacks to all political systems. Ultimately, in politics, I want to see people who understand this and understand balance in this imperfect world where idealism is foolishness.

It is like this in every aspect of government. If abortion was illegal, girls would attempt it themselves and die. It would be just like prohibition in this day and age.

The real question of politics is: what is the best we can do? I have no fricking clue even how to start answering that question, as most people do- because people either base their politics off of idealism or fear.


without delving too far into politics yet again . . . coercive monopolies can only occur under a system that allows government regulation. one company might have a de facto monopoly under laissez-faire at any given time, but that does not preclude companies who make a better product or have a more effective marketing strategy from coming in and gaining market share even with a behemoth as competition. on the other hand, with the force of the government behind it a corporation can essentially do whatever it wants to bully competitors out of business -- all it would need to do is appeal to congress to, er, regulate its competitors out of any chance of profitability. and the only way it can do that is to pour a zillion dollars into congressional campaign funds . . . see below.

the only companies that would want government favors under laissez-faire are the ones that are having the shite beaten out of them by the competition. if we didn't allow that the mediocre companies would fail (as the market says they should) and we would be left only with the successful companies, who again would have no reason to pour funds into the coffers of politicos so long as they didn't negatively interfere with their affairs by . . . er, regulating their business.

so yeah, different strokes.

!@#$%! 05.24.2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
without delving too far into politics yet again . . . coercive monopolies can only occur under a system that allows government regulation. one company might have a de facto monopoly under laissez-faire at any given time, but that does not preclude companies who make a better product or have a more effective marketing strategy from coming in and gaining market share even with a behemoth as competition. on the other hand, with the force of the government behind it a corporation can essentially do whatever it wants to bully competitors out of business -- all it would need to do is appeal to congress to, er, regulate its competitors out of any chance of profitability. and the only way it can do that is to pour a zillion dollars into congressional campaign funds . . . see below.

the only companies that would want government favors under laissez-faire are the ones that are having the shite beaten out of them by the competition. if we didn't allow that the mediocre companies would fail (as the market says they should) and we would be left only with the successful companies, who again would have no reason to pour funds into the coffers of politicos so long as they didn't negatively interfere with their affairs by . . . er, regulating their business.

so yeah, different strokes.


hah, i bet you get TONS of chicks with that kind of talk :D

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
hah, i bet you get TONS of chicks with that kind of talk :D


more than you could ever imagine.

!@#$%! 05.24.2006 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
more than you could ever imagine.


 


she wants you

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 05:40 PM

ha. in all honesty, i do have to learn to be a tad more . . . superficial. it's a problem -- i care about people's ideals and dreams and aspirations and values and everything that makes them uniquely human, not what quantity of alcohol they had the previous night or what kind of dionysian debauchery is most conducive to their ephemeral pleasure. i think i scare the hell out of most people . . . except maybe bay buchanan or judy woodruff :rolleyes:.

!@#$%! 05.24.2006 05:41 PM

sorry. i was just picking on you for what you said about baltimore. :p

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 05:48 PM

no prob -- now go wrench your hands off in the zinc before you go in the ambalants to the hawspil in anarunnel. jeet? nojew? ok, i'll make you some aigs and wooder, or maybe we can go to litlitlee, but first i have to warsh up in the shar.

Kallisti23chaos 05.24.2006 05:51 PM

Are you here waiting for me ??**

terminal pharmacy 05.24.2006 06:00 PM

do you want a root?

do you mind laying down while I have one..... :-)

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
without delving too far into politics yet again . . . coercive monopolies can only occur under a system that allows government regulation. one company might have a de facto monopoly under laissez-faire at any given time, but that does not preclude companies who make a better product or have a more effective marketing strategy from coming in and gaining market share even with a behemoth as competition. on the other hand, with the force of the government behind it a corporation can essentially do whatever it wants to bully competitors out of business -- all it would need to do is appeal to congress to, er, regulate its competitors out of any chance of profitability. and the only way it can do that is to pour a zillion dollars into congressional campaign funds . . . see below.

the only companies that would want government favors under laissez-faire are the ones that are having the shite beaten out of them by the competition. if we didn't allow that the mediocre companies would fail (as the market says they should) and we would be left only with the successful companies, who again would have no reason to pour funds into the coffers of politicos so long as they didn't negatively interfere with their affairs by . . . er, regulating their business.

so yeah, different strokes.


True, but allowing business to line congressional pockets with money is a laissez-faire attitude in itself.

As I recall, before good ol' TR the economic system of the US was very laissez faire and it had a ton of problems. The train, oil, and steel industries were disgusting, and progressivism alleviated that. The problem was that progressivists didn't know when to stop and ended up hurting those industries a lot.

!@#$%! 05.24.2006 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
no prob -- now go wrench your hands off in the zinc before you go in the ambalants to the hawspil in anarunnel. jeet? nojew? ok, i'll make you some aigs and wooder, or maybe we can go to litlitlee, but first i have to warsh up in the shar.


i'll take my aigs with scrapple :D

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
True, but allowing business to line congressional pockets with money is a laissez-faire attitude in itself.

As I recall, before good ol' TR the economic system of the US was very laissez faire and it had a ton of problems. The train, oil, and steel industries were disgusting, and progressivism alleviated that. The problem was that progressivists didn't know when to stop and ended up hurting those industries a lot.


but it was also just about the greatest period of economic expansion in human history. the major industrialists such as carnegie and rockefeller almost singlehandedly pulling us out of an agrarian, slave-based hierarchy and into an industrial society from whom millions profited (financially and/or through enormous leaps and bounds in the quality of life) has to count for something.

Daycare Nation 05.24.2006 06:14 PM

If I told you you had a nice body, would you hold it against me?

or...

*falls down* Wow, I guess I fell for you.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
but it was also just about the greatest period of economic expansion in human history. the major industrialists such as carnegie and rockefeller almost singlehandedly pulling us out of an agrarian, slave-based hierarchy and into an industrial society from whom millions profited (financially and/or through enormous leaps and bounds in the quality of life) has to count for something.


And in the process called in some pinkertons to slaughter underpaid protesting workers.

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
And in the process called in some pinkertons to slaughter underpaid protesting workers.


eh? when? maybe they fired them for walking out when they needed them, but no one has a right to a job in the first place. seriously, i'm curious to know if that ever happened. even if murder did occur it would be the fault of a few nutjobs who should have been met with the full force of the law, not with the capitalistic system itself.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
eh? when? maybe they fired them for walking out when they needed them, but no one has a right to a job in the first place. seriously, i'm curious to know if that ever happened. even if murder did occur it would be the fault of a few nutjobs who should have been met with the full force of the law, not with the capitalistic system itself.


During the Homestead Strike, the arrival, on July 6, 1892, of a force of 300 Pinkerton detectives from New York and Chicago resulted in a fight in which about 11 men were killed, and to restore order two brigades of the state militia were called out.
-Wikipedia

Andrew Carnegie ordered the Pinkertons in on the strikers and the Pinkertons were well known to be nutjobs. He knew what he was doing. And he was one of the robber barons that was looked on kindly by history.

The main reason I don't like capitalism is because men use it as an excuse to do ANYTHING for the sake of profits.

The reason I don't like communism is because it doesn't motivate anyone.

Either way, were fucked!

alyasa 05.24.2006 07:55 PM

Any debate of politics on an Internet forum, where teenagers are present, can come to no good. Or maybe it can be the best thing in the world. Depends on the teenagers, of course.

alyasa 05.24.2006 08:02 PM

Also, I like how, since communism and capitalism are going to screw us up, we turn to the politics of no hope. How very emo.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 08:05 PM

Hahaha, I'd rep you if I could alyasa for those 2 posts.

alyasa 05.24.2006 08:10 PM

Thanks, you were always one of the cool ones. :)

acousticrock87 05.24.2006 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79
no prob -- now go wrench your hands off in the zinc before you go in the ambalants to the hawspil in anarunnel. jeet? nojew? ok, i'll make you some aigs and wooder, or maybe we can go to litlitlee, but first i have to warsh up in the shar.

For a second there I began to seriously doubt my vocabulary...

qprogeny79 05.24.2006 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
For a second there I began to seriously doubt my vocabulary...


'tis balamerese, lad.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 05.24.2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
These are pickup lines that I have used, guaranteed not to work.
  • (in response to "I like your velvet underground t-shirt") Yeah, they are ok.
  • .

i wish i got the same response. I wore my VU shirt today and its always: "Why do you have a banana on your shirt?"
1.) because
2.) because yr stupid, if you dont know what it is, its not worth telling you.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 09:20 PM

 


This is the one I have. Chicks dig the Velvet Underground.

No girls have ever complimented me on my Gang of Four, Sonic Youth, or Joy Division shirts though.

umjammer atomsk 05.24.2006 10:12 PM

My friend recently told me that the mallcore kid's favorite store (hot topic) has started carrying VU merchandise. Time for it go the way of the ramones I suppose.

acousticrock87 05.24.2006 10:14 PM

Or we can replace the banana with a Campbell's Soup can. The mall kids won't know what's going on.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.24.2006 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by umjammer atomsk
My friend recently told me that the mallcore kid's favorite store (hot topic) has started carrying VU merchandise. Time for it go the way of the ramones I suppose.


That's interesting. Whatever. I'm passed the Lou Reed phase, so when the little kids talk to me about VU, I can be say "Yeah, they were an awesome band until Cale left, then they were just a good for the albums VU and Loaded." Or I can say, "I think Jonathan Richman kick's post VU Reed's ass." Then I can maintain my cool indie status.

Oooh, that is a good one


Indie-snob Comments that I would probably make when picking up girls that will usually work against my favor:
  • David Gilmour sucks
  • The Gift is the best Velvet Underground song. It is 10 minutes of the same riff with a story told over it.
  • Trompe Le Monde is an amazing Pixies album and is very underrated
  • Radiohead are nothing compared to Jeff Buckley
  • Devo's early, heavily perverted stuff is their best.
  • Robert Smith is a pansy
  • Morissey is nothing without the Smiths
  • I think Steve Albini is misunderstood, he seems like he could be a really nice guy
  • Have you ever listened to Rapeman?
  • My favorite rapper is Kool Keith, the song Spankmaster is so catchy.
  • It is probably a good thing John Lennon was killed when he was, he was really starting to blow.


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