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h8kurdt 05.17.2006 10:26 AM

Never thought truncated would be a King fan but now I know.

truncated 05.17.2006 10:38 AM

I won't even deign to defend him to you ignoramuses. I am secure in the knowledge that I am enlightened to the brilliance of his literary posturings.

SolidZach 05.17.2006 10:42 AM

sounds cool, ill join.

Rob Instigator 05.17.2006 10:58 AM

stephen king has said he writes salami, but it is GOOD sallami. great stories.

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 12:24 PM

har har. nobody is making me read horror books, unless they involve mafioso politicians (the real horror if you ask me).

anyway im not organizing this shit, i've done my share of organizin' & its an ungrateful task.

kundera is a great guy to have a beer with. not a great-great writer, but smarter than glice :D i consider him my stephen king-- very amusing, easy read, funny characters, and i just would like to sit with him & drink a few pilsners while he talks about his old lovers. ha ha. you fuckers dont know what youre talking about. intellectual my ass. his books are about sex mostly.

anyway. im bored. irritable. not a great day.

i think to read l ron hubbard though one must be on crack.

here is a little book for all of you to read: les liaisons dangereuses. that's right, the english versions keep the french title. don't tell me you've "seen the movie" or i'll fucking smack you. this is some fucking excellent prose and a thrilling. engrossing plot, populated by astonishing characters, and if you're not hooked by the 2nd page you lack either brain lobes or gonads.

chordelier de laclos, who wrote it, was a general of napoleon's army who specialized in designing fortresses. try beating this one.

Laila 05.17.2006 12:32 PM

i think people here would be willing to join and put their add their opinions to the discussion (wherever the discussion is wil be held). but i think the only problem would be unanimously deciding on a book. i suggest a poll to determine the book and perhaps more than one group, reading a different book at the same time, so that incase they don't want to read the book one group is reading they can read the other. maybe chabib would set up a chat room for us. i'm sure he would be willing if someone asked.

marleypumpkin 05.17.2006 12:36 PM

I don't know Laila, chabib can be pretty uptight. (lol)

Laila 05.17.2006 12:37 PM

why do you say that? what'd he do?

marleypumpkin 05.17.2006 12:46 PM

Oh, he didn't do a damn thing. I'm just trying to be silly, & start up a conversation.

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 12:51 PM

i have a feeling the total i.q. of this thread has suddenly precipitated into the abyss :D

Savage Clone 05.17.2006 12:52 PM

Yeah, and it shows in your typing.

(Like I should talk)

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 12:59 PM

hah. yes it's contagious. run. :D

Glice 05.17.2006 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

kundera is a great guy to have a beer with. not a great-great writer, but smarter than glice :D


Oooh. Get her.

I wrote a book once. It was also shit. Do you want to have a beer with me now?

[Just kidding, good on you guy]

Glice 05.17.2006 01:11 PM

Oh, and should this go ahead, it should be controlled by one person, and no different people reading different books because they want to read different books, because we can all read our own books if we want to. Part of the point is reading books that you might not read. If we decide upon King, I'll happily go along with it...

[trunky-wunky, close your eyes now]

...even though I think King is utter, utter shite. I might change my mind, I might contribute vitriolic ramblings (something I am perhaps not known for), but the point is to get different points of view.

[trunky-wunky, you may open again]

...because Stephen King is a wonderful writer.

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 01:15 PM

king is a very nice realist, his descriptions of new england small towns are pretty kickass if that's the genre you're into. (i'm not. but i digress.) throw however supernatural darkness and... hm.. well... maybe if threatened with penile electrocution i'd give it a 2nd try.

Savage Clone 05.17.2006 01:18 PM

H.P. Lovecraft slays King on all levels, including the level of creepy detailed descriptions of New England.
I visited Lovecraft's grave while in Providence a few weeks back, actually. Good times.

porkmarras 05.17.2006 01:25 PM

Edgar Allan Poe,Hermane Hesse and we will be friends for life.

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 01:40 PM

poe >>> lovecraft

lovecraft is schlocky. poe just genius.

Savage Clone 05.17.2006 01:42 PM

If we were in the same room, I would hit you now.

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 01:43 PM

ouch, that flapping handkerchief really hurts :p

golden child 05.17.2006 01:47 PM

i wanted to read stephen kings new book.
like exploding cell phones or something.

truncated 05.17.2006 02:13 PM

Insofar as it's possible, to appreciate King, one must take an objective look at his technical approach.

Yes, the plots are cheesy, and the language can be colloquial and overly corny. But his prose style, his descriptive abilities, his dictional manipulation of the reader's emotions, his linguistic versatility, his uncanny ability to mine the human psyche - fucking brilliant.

His books may come across as simplistic or superficial, but that is to the unobservant eye. Pay some attention to the WAY the man writes, not WHAT he writes, and you will appreciate his abilities.

I will assert (and correctly so) that Stephen King kicks Poe's ass any day of the week.

Ich bin gael 05.17.2006 02:19 PM

My suggestion was Hunger by Knut Hamsun or something by Raymond Chandler, perhaps The Big Sleep.


I wouldn't be opposed to reading Genet, seeing as I've read Querelle de Brest and it's one of my favorite books. I have his novel Funeral Rites, but I haven't read it yet, so if anyone wants to read that I'd be game!

Savage Clone 05.17.2006 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
Insofar as it's possible, to appreciate King, one must take an objective look at his technical approach.

Yes, the plots are cheesy, and the language can be colloquial and overly corny. But his prose style, his descriptive abilities, his dictional manipulation of the reader's emotions, his linguistic versatility, his uncanny ability to mine the human psyche - fucking brilliant.

His books may come across as simplistic or superficial, but that is to the unobservant eye. Pay some attention to the WAY the man writes, not WHAT he writes, and you will appreciate his abilities.

I will assert (and correctly so) that Stephen King kicks Poe's ass any day of the week.



Yep, and I only hate Bob Seger because I haven't heard any "deep cuts!"

Glice 05.17.2006 02:28 PM

So, re: getting this idea going, are we all voting that noumenal be general leader/ instigator type? Having votes on the first book? Or are we going waffle around talking arse for a few more pages? I'm happier with the latter, but the former is probably more productive.

truncated 05.17.2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Yep, and I only hate Bob Seger because I haven't heard any "deep cuts!"


Look Peaches, you can love or hate Stephen King, but you can't deny that he knows how to write.

I'm not a fan of Joe Satriani, but I won't deny that the guy can play his gee-tar.

(I just had to say that.)

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
Look Peaches, you can love or hate Stephen King, but you can't deny that he knows how to write.

I'm not a fan of Joe Satriani, but I won't deny that the guy can play his gee-tar.

(I just had to say that.)


this makes me think of the wasted talents of circus freaks and the pointless energy spent on breaking guiness-book records: most pies eaten by a human. etc.

Savage Clone 05.17.2006 02:36 PM

Joe Satriani would be way cooler with a parasitic twin coming out of his chest.

krastian 05.17.2006 03:14 PM

You guys should come to Baltimore and visit Poe's grave and then puke when you realize yr in Baltimore:D

porkmarras 05.17.2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by krastian
You guys should come to Baltimore and visit Poe's grave and then puke when you realize yr in Baltimore:D

Tell that to John Waters babes

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
You guys should come to Baltimore and visit Poe's grave and then puke when you realize yr in Baltimore:D


fuck. ive been there. i love your fucking town. i actually miss it a lot. spent a whole day looking for the grave & when i asked for poe's grave people asked me if he was a baseball player. ha ha. finally found it in that little churchyard, with the obelisk erected by -- who else!-- the wonderful french. i sat there had a smoke, poured some booze from my flask & left him a couple of cigarettes.

2 other maryland graves i want to see are f. scott's fitzgerald's (somewhere in rockville) & divine, who is buried in towson.

krastian 05.17.2006 03:29 PM

It's ok. I'm not from there I just moved there after high school from Western Maryland. I always end up going to DC.

lonidier 05.17.2006 04:02 PM

Right on!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
It's an intriguing idea, and I'd be up for it, because I'm ordinarily reading most of the time any....

My point? If we can read books that do not for the most part exist to be conversational pieces on grassy knolls outside the university coffeeshop, I'm in.


Sounds like we're at the same school. I'm totally down with a book club. I've got my own suggestions just like everybody else, but i think it is a great idea. Lets not forget where this is spawning from. We all share a common interest in something in a little bit different than what is currently being force feed to the masses through the media machine.

Personally I say fuck the cannon. If the book I'm reading owes a great debt to some dude that died a thousand years ago, then cool, I'm sure someonme will tell me all about it usually before i even bother to ask. I'd rather read whats being produced by current writers. I personally hated A Seperate Peace. I loved Cloud Atlas. No, I don't think the two have anything in common.

That's my two cents.

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
It's ok. I'm not from there I just moved there after high school from Western Maryland. I always end up going to DC.


why go to dc when you have the ottobar, tarantula hill (rip), and even the occasional recher show? better record stores too! meh! dc crowds have big sticks up their asses at shows-- government employees, lobbyists, & the general yuppie invasion. i know because i lived there like forever. dc is dead. baltimore is still rotting beautifully.

western maryland-- did you go to frostburg? ha!

Glice 05.17.2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lonidier
... I'd rather read whats being produced by current writers...


Different strokes eh? I can't remember the last time I read something by someone who's alive, and I know I've touched on very little of the 20th Century in the last year. My last fews months, pretentiously enough, have been consumed with Epic poetry up to Dante.

It's an exciting world we live in, eh?

nomadicfollower 05.17.2006 04:49 PM

I'm down, if we can find some way to do it.
We should also have a thread about a general dicussion of books, because I can't find an author I should move onto.

krastian 05.17.2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
why go to dc when you have the ottobar, tarantula hill (rip), and even the occasional recher show? better record stores too! meh! dc crowds have big sticks up their asses at shows-- government employees, lobbyists, & the general yuppie invasion. i know because i lived there like forever. dc is dead. baltimore is still rotting beautifully.

western maryland-- did you go to frostburg? ha!

Ha....somebody mentioning Frostburg on here is kind of a headfuck! I grew up right outside the city limits of Cumberland even though my mail said Cumberland. My little sister starts at Frostburg in the fall. The Ottobar is cool and so is The Recher, but it just seems that most of the shows that I like are at the Black Cat or 930 Club. No question about the record stores though that's for sure:D.

noumenal 05.17.2006 05:52 PM

OK, I'll assume the role of organizer, if that's fine with everyone. If not, just post and say so.

Like I said earlier, polls will have to be of the PM variety. Rules will change depending on the book and how long it is, difficulty, etc. I say ONE thread for every time we meet to discuss, plus a chat room not on the SY forum. Yahoo would work fine. Chris isn't going to make a SY chat here, especially for this.

PM me if you want to join. Let's give it 48 hours for people to do it. By saying you're in, you have no obligation. I mean, if we choose a book that you don't want to read, just don't do it. I'll keep this thead bumped.

About choosing books: If each person is allowed to nominate one book, then when we vote, each book will recieve one vote. SO, when you PM me to join, list three authors that you'd like to read. I will then make a master list of suitable books from all of the authors suggested. Then when it comes time to pick a book, I'll choose a small sample of books from this list and we will vote on this small sample. I choose the sample at random but will make sure it has variety.

Does this sound like a good idea? If not, let me know. Otherwise send me a PM. Or go fuck yourself. One of those three things.

!@#$%! 05.17.2006 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noumenal
Does this sound like a good idea? If not, let me know. Otherwise send me a PM. Or go fuck yourself. One of those three things.


ha ha. good man. i'll send you a PM in support. no crap books though, or im quittin'. :D

golden child 05.17.2006 06:08 PM

seems complicated, but since your doing it and not me.
im PMn now


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