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the ikara cult 04.01.2007 06:29 PM

I know someone who has a Goo tshirt, he's never listened to the music as far as i know, but i dont really mind

afterthefact 04.01.2007 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
well porkie what can i say, the world is coming to an end and our very way of life is threatened at the core.

i am burning all my sonic youth shirts immediately, or better yet, giving them to goodwill (an american charity shop) so that some unschooled pauper gets to wear them in the supermarket parking lot he inhabits while i confine myself to an exclusive attire of fake fur tshirts devoid of any logos or propaganda.

thurston on the other hand must be laughing his way to the bank as we speak...

I actually got Electric Jet Set and Dino Jr's Without A Sound at Goodwill, and it was 50% off day! Now if I could actually find a SY shirt at Goodwill, that would be candy right there :)

Jt 04.01.2007 07:09 PM

Surely this all depends on whether you think t-shirts like that are intrisically linked to the albums/artists that they represent or whether they can stand on their own in purely aesthetic/fashionable terms, removed from the music that spawned them.

The Goo album design itself represents an appropriation of an image of David and Maureen Smith, relatives of the Moors Murderers, going to a court. Yet most would argue wearing the t-shirt doesn't amount to to condoning the murder of children.

I guess the point is that sometimes sleeves like this transcend their original medium, gaining more pop-cultural significance as a piece of iconic artwork than as any kind of representation of music. So you're bound to get fashion victims or those with an artistic bent wearing stuff like the Goo design. I mean c'mon, David Beckham wore a t-shirt with an Exodus album cover on it.

afterthefact 04.01.2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jt
Surely this all depends on whether you think t-shirts like that are intrisically linked to the albums/artists that they represent or whether they can stand on their own in purely aesthetic/fashionable terms, removed from the music that spawned them.

The Goo album design itself represents an appropriation of an image of David and Maureen Smith, relatives of the Moors Murderers, going to a court. Yet most would argue wearing the t-shirt doesn't amount to to condoning the murder of children.

I guess the point is that sometimes sleeves like this transcend their original medium, gaining more pop-cultural significance as a piece of iconic artwork than as any kind of representation of music. So you're bound to get fashion victims or those with an artistic bent wearing stuff like the Goo design. I mean c'mon, David Beckham wore a t-shirt with an Exodus album cover on it.

Too much thought for a thread about band shirts.

Norma J 04.01.2007 09:19 PM

I remember in highschool going back yearrrrrs ago now. Some kidhad an Alice in Chains shirt and I made comment about it, he gave me a puzzled look and I realised he hadn't a clue, I said the band on your shirt, and he said something along the lines of "I don't know who they are. My mum bought it for me".

Rob Instigator 04.02.2007 08:57 AM

I am with you porkmarrasssarramkrop

I HATE when people wear band shirts and do not know or like the band. especially when they do it on purpose.

robs

sonicl 04.02.2007 09:05 AM

When I was school age, I used to wear a t-shirt with this design:

 


I knew nothing about Roy Lichtenstein, I just liked the picture.

screamingskull 04.02.2007 09:07 AM

why did Sonic Youth let Urban Outfitters sell their shirts? WHY?

screamingskull 04.02.2007 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
i dont know?

why did dinosaur jr. and the melvins make it okaye for nike to make shoes featuring their band names?

people like money. even sonic youth.



really?, i have never heard of this!

sonicl 04.02.2007 09:10 AM

The graphics aren't Sonic Youth's to sell or not sell anyway, the belong to the artists.

screamingskull 04.02.2007 09:12 AM

IVE FIGURED OUT WHY!!!

watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny_j-bAhq68

Rob Instigator 04.02.2007 09:15 AM

posers

gmku 04.02.2007 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I hate starting this thread, in a way, but last night i was talking to this guy i've known for a few years who has a habit of wearing band tees, even though he doesn't really know the band. Perhaps i'm really a snob, even though i am not and i haven't got enough reasons to, but i drilled his brain with my lectures till he said that i'm rude. It's just that shallowness gets on my nerves more, now.


I don't know. I think it's kind of cool. The guy's showing off the Roy Pettibon artwork more than the album, really. As band T's go, there aren't many as classy, so at least he's showing good taste--and promoting good art.

sonicl 04.02.2007 09:43 AM

 

I wonder how many of the people who wear that shirt know they're promoting the Rolling Stones?

screamingskull 04.02.2007 09:46 AM

Damn H&M too, they were the store that started selling Ramones/The Clash shirts!

screamingskull 04.02.2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
i highly doubt johnny rotten approved k-mart selling sex pistols boxers...not that it would matter much either way.


ha ha ha ha!, well he did "I'm a celebrity get me outta here" based on that he probably loves having them sold in K-Mart.

screamingskull 04.02.2007 09:56 AM

he needs/wants the attention/money is all i'm saying.

ALIEN ANAL 04.02.2007 10:00 AM

bah, hes old now and already did his job, let him sell out i say :P

afterthefact 04.02.2007 01:51 PM

Let him sell out? Johnny Rotten? He's the epitomy of fake.

Rob Instigator 04.02.2007 02:23 PM

neither John Lydon nor any of the sex pistols have any say as to how the pistols are marketed. They are Malcom mclaren's band. He decides. he owns the rights.

MellySingsDoom 04.02.2007 05:24 PM

Rob Instigator - with all respect, I believe that Messrs Lydon, Jones, Matlock and Cook won their intellectual property rights from McLaren in the mid 80's, after a messy and protracted court case. If the Sex Pistols are marketing themselves like a bunch of shameless douchebags, then you need to go to the original source to complain. Not that they'd listen, I'm sure.

luxinterior 04.02.2007 05:35 PM

I can understand the frustration of encountering someone who is not all that they appear. For instance, this girl at my first college who always used to wear t-shirts of musicians and groups that she maybe knew a few songs from, at most. And her clothing acted as a conversation starter, but she had nothing to back it up with, so the conversations often went nowhere. That part is annoying. I also had a friend in high school who, to impress me, started wearing t-shirts of bands she knew I listened to. That was a bit obnoxious, especially since one of those groups was none other than Sonic Youth, and after having taken her to one of their concerts, she told me that she didn't enjoy it at all. That much was fine, but why wear the shirt then? I didn't need her to pretend.

On the other hand, if you like the shirt, then you like the shirt. And it's all just clothing, and it shouldn't matter. Like those Warhol handbags and t-shirts you see so much of now. You can't expect everyone who wears a banana shirt to be into the Velvet Underground. I mean and now you can hardly expect the person to know who Warhol was. Because for the most part, it's just a bunch of rich girls who are buying this stuff because they sell it in all the boutiques, and they are accustomed to shopping there. Nothing against rich people, of course. Crypto, I love you man.

terminal pharmacy 04.02.2007 08:45 PM

i think im too old to give a shit

Rob Instigator 04.03.2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Rob Instigator - with all respect, I believe that Messrs Lydon, Jones, Matlock and Cook won their intellectual property rights from McLaren in the mid 80's, after a messy and protracted court case. If the Sex Pistols are marketing themselves like a bunch of shameless douchebags, then you need to go to the original source to complain. Not that they'd listen, I'm sure.


I stand corrected!
when have the sex pistols NOT acted like douchebags?

sonicl 04.03.2007 10:10 AM

There should be a law passed that if you see a person on the street wearing your favourite band's T-shirt you are allowed to stop them and make them name three tracks off one of the band's early album. If they fail, you can shoot them, but if they succeed you have to buy them a slap-up meal in a restaurant of their choice. Seems reasonable to me.

Pookie 04.03.2007 10:19 AM

This reminds me of somebody I knew a few years ago who wore t-shirts "ironically". I had a purple Ordnance Survey t-shirt that I got at work, and he bought it from me.

When I questioned whether he really wanted to wear it he said, "yes, it's ironic". I thought people would just think he was some geek who worked for Ordnance Survey.

Strange that some people put so much thought into these things.

And all the band t-shirts you see in High Street shops, especially ones for children.

sonicl 04.03.2007 10:23 AM

Does Seth fit into his SY babygro yet, Pookie?

Pookie 04.03.2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
That would mean slaughtering a huge amount of innocent civilians in Ramones t-shirts, then.


Innocent?

sonicl 04.03.2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
That would mean slaughtering a huge amount of innocent civilians in Ramones t-shirts, then.

It's okay, no-one would miss 'em.

Pookie 04.03.2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
Does Seth fit into his SY babygro yet, Pookie?


He started wearing it a couple of days ago!

That doesn't count by the way, viewers, because his daddy is a fan. Kitty had a great Clash t-shirt too, which will be recycled on Seth when he's big enough.

sonicl 04.03.2007 10:29 AM

In Seth's case I'd make an exception - I'd grant him a pardon as long as he buys me lunch. Egg and cress sandwiches, a packet of quavers and a carton of orange juice will do just fine.

sonicl 04.03.2007 10:35 AM

I blame the parents.

floatingslowly 04.03.2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
The whole rise of junior AC/DC tees is to be blamed on the Primrose Hill gang and their decadent rock n roll ways.


seriously....what in the fuck is with that??

I saw some 10 year old wearing one this weekend and thought "he likes AC/DC???". :confused:

I care so little for AC/DC, I didn't think anything of it....is it really a "thing"?

Pookie 04.03.2007 10:40 AM

I think band t-shirts for children is part of the same thing. For some people bands are a fashion accessory, even if it only amounts to buying a t-shirt. And I think increasingly children are seen as a fashion accessory, or at least that is one of their functions. So you see parent and child in matching hooker outfits, and matching Ramones t-shirts.

sonicl 04.03.2007 10:41 AM

You dress Kitty in a hooker outfit???? Does her mother not object?

sonicl 04.03.2007 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
The Beckhams have a lot to answer for too.

Yessssssss!!!!!!

Pookie 04.03.2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
You dress Kitty in a hooker outfit???? Does her mother not object?


If I didn't know better, I'd say you've deliberately misunderstood what I said to get a cheap laugh. Well done, that man.

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I blame it on Kate Moss and Sadie Frost. They are bad influences on toddlers. The Beckhams have a lot to answer for too.


And don't forget Madonna and her godawful kids books.

Rob Instigator 04.03.2007 10:52 AM

posers are posers



call it what it is

max 04.05.2007 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
posers are posers



call it what it is


SADUS
torture

We need D.T.P.
Death to posers is what I mean
Stand tall, never Fall
We will Rise to kill them all
There's an Evil in your Brain
Driving you fucking Insane
Torture
Fighting off
The Evil in your Brain
At any Cost
To Release you from this Pain
Death will come
The final Sign will arrive
To torture your Mind
Anybody from deep inside
Torture
Torture
There's an evil in your Brain
Driving you fucking insane
Torture
Fight!

Norma J 04.05.2007 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
When I was school age, I used to wear a t-shirt with this design:



 


I knew nothing about Roy Lichtenstein, I just liked the picture.


That's alot different though. Roy Lichtenstein creates visual art for no said purpose other than to be visualised. Sonic Youth create music which the music brings merchandise to advertise and support that music and the band itself. Mr. Lichtenstein (whose work is fantastic) did not create art as advertisement. If someone is wearing a Sonic Youth shirt not knowing who the fuck they are, they're supporting something they don't have a clue about and that's complete ignorance and naivity.


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