i think it is one of those things you just know. i know that while i find many women to be very sexy/beautiful/attractive whatever, sexually i prefer men. does that make me any more normal than if i were to prefer women sexually? no.

I fail to see where gays are ever ridiculed on TV. The problem is that they perpetuate stereotypes, such as butchy dykes and feminine fags, but homophobia is definitely NOT pc these days.

Sorry if my opinions bother you; so much for "tolerance."

Cantankerous said "How do you know you're gay if you've never tried it?" well yeah, that theory basically applies to everything in life. How do you know you'd like sucking dick, ass fucking, handballing, etc. if you've never tried it?

I've had a few girlfriends, and I did not enjoy eating all of their pussies, gnome sayin'?

I live in a part of the country with one of the highest concentrations of homosexual people. Their whole secular culture is very interesting to me. It seems a viable method of birth control, for sure!

I don't understand why some of you are getting so pissy about a simple question being asked.

I certainly was not trying to insult Alex's Trip, but evidence from his posts he's a pretty confused 16 year old... but who wasn't? The question should be, what happened in 7th grade that led to WHAM being interested in other dudes?

Sorry, I'm student of psychology, I enjoy twittering with people's beliefs and seeing how dear they really hold them. And if you're going to go all full-disclosure on a very public message board, you should expect things like that.

I was hardly rude.

PS- some people DO have glass-eating fetishes... http://today.reuters.com/tv/videoStory.aspx?storyID=4faa9787d8e5ad20f81617f60b 0552072cb6ceb0



Normality is based on laws of averages, is it not? I also find it interesting that the ones getting most defensive are the ones who identify themselves as gay!

jeez folks... i'm listening to David Tibet and Douglas Pearce right now, don't get yr panties in a twist...

That is just sick, I mean glass eating fetishes.

Sure maybe in your mind...

Can't wait till we get on the NAMBLA debate in this thread :eek:

I think they are disgusting fucks, but I think their mind is just utter crap.

i don't see anything unusual or abnormal about being gay. you can't help who you are.

I'm not confused. I know what I am. But I just wasn't completely accepting of it. Coming out to my parents is a step that I took that will help me lead to acceptance. I may have come off as confused because I wasn't necessarily happy with being gay because I had the dread of coming out to my parents. But I certainly am not confused. I have never been attracted to girls. Ever. I can't imagine that I ever will be.I don't feel as if I am being defensive. I've just been trying to answer your questions and explain myself.

but that's the same excuse numerous pedophiles and murderers have given to justify their behavior. Fortunately for you, your actions have not harmed anyone (so far as I know).

i don't know how old you are, where you live, etc., but here in western MA there's nothing abnormal about being gay, certainly, but head on out to Wyoming and I'm sure you'll get a different perspective.

and you certainly can "help who you are." we are biological organisms with a propensity towards learned behavior. need i remind you of pavlov and skinner's work? it's certainly been applied to humans since rats and dogs. if someone has a negative trait about themselves, they can work to change it.

jose delgado was an expert in brain surgery. it is alleged that he managed, via stimulation of electrodes in the brain, to change sexuality in both heteros and homos.

william burroughs has written some fascinating essays on the subject of sexual conditioning.

i can't force myself to suddenly like women. i'm naturally attracted to men. it's just how i am.

You were not one of the peeps getting defensive.

Just say to them that if they want to talk or if they have any questions to just ask you about it. This is new to them as well.

....and by WHAM! he means


Had to do it!!

Fuck why didn't I get that one.

that was hilarious and you are much repped.

you must etc etc

why do students all think they are so fucking clever? nobody else gives a shit about what your little projects; because they are worthless.

Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common...

Who said that? Can't remember. It's in a Noise Conspiracy album cover though.

^^^ wins this morning's prize

I thought that you were a student who thinks of himself that he is better than everyone else.Am i wrong?

i don't think i'm better, everyone else is just worse.

Fuck you.:fuckyou:

Oh shizzle...I'm out to my family know, except my little sister. Not that any of them will talk to me about it.

I don't know how to tell all my friends though.

Hm. I think some good friends may have noticed a little?

Haha, yeah, maybe. I have a few friends who already know. But the rest of my friends act all gay and shit as jokes. They probably think that anything I do is a joke as well.

All my friends know, and they were true friends and were able to look beyond this.

Yeah, now may be the time when you see people's true colors.

Yes, see I have few friends, I am selective when choosing friends. They have to be very open minded. I wouuld wait to come out to them till near graduation, but that is me, since I lost all my high school friends practically.

I'm not so worried about their reactions, I just don't know what to do. I don't like making a big announcement like I did with my parents. I'd rather just like change my stupid ass myspace thing to "gay" and leave it at that.

I just said to my friends all nonchalant, "I am dating a guy." To all of them. It was funny some were shocked and some were cool.

Once I get a guy to date, I'll use that.

Just say to them very calm, do it one by one. Or to all of them as well.

It sounds a lot easier than it actually it.

I have no feeling to compare how hard it must be for you. I really have no good advice. I have two gay uncles; one was really obviously gay from the very beginning to all of his high school friends, so I guess he didn't have to do the whole announcement thing. My other uncle found it really hard to come out- I wish I knew more but I don't.

I wish you the best of luck. :]

Thanks a lot.

I always hear about people's gay uncles (one of my friends calls him her guncle). With two sisters, I'm doomed to be one of them.

I am the youngest one and the only gay one in the whole family. So it will be a first.

I'm the first and only as well.

me and you are doomed to be the gay uncle. It doesn't bother me. I for one am looking for it.

Eh, I never said it would be a bad thing.

i have a gay uncle. he's rad.

AfricanQueen91: forget school...imm drop out nd sell drugs
Disapearer: I'll go be a prostitute.
AfricanQueen91: hahaha thats seems like a good life
Disapearer: Yeah, for a guy at least.
AfricanQueen91: hahaha u would get raped....by gay dude lol hahaha
Disapearer: It isn't rape if I get paid.
Disapearer: and frankly I wouldn't give a shit if it was a guy, as long as I got paid
AfricanQueen91: ewww....thats soo nasty lol
Disapearer: Well, Ijeoma, I'm not the straightest of guys, you'll find
AfricanQueen91: wow....im soo depressed...i dont wanna study for english anymore...my day is ruined.....im taking a quiz on the internet to see if im gay lol
Disapearer: Um...Ijeoma...I'm trying to tell you that I'm a full blown fag.
AfricanQueen91: oooh...thats coool
AfricanQueen91: lol...i have no problem with gay ppl
AfricanQueen91: i got alot of gay friends lol
Disapearer: I know, you're tight like that.

I'm getting sloppy with coming out, doing it over AIM.