Actually, his posts are long for no reason. Relax the 'enter' key for a second.

Totally. You can clump sentences together in what is called a 'paragraph'.

My parents we're in their 20s in the 90s. They turned into their own parents. Madness, divorce, etc.

i don't really think there was a movement at all. i was in high school from '89 to '93, so i guess i'd fall into that generation. i grew up in white, middle-class suburbia/small town, which i would say classifies many of this "disillusioned" generation. i listened to sonic youth, mudhoney, dinosaur jr. nirvana had a lot more effect on the radio than it did on me or my personal life. i wasn't a fan of pearl jam but realize now that they have some pretty good tunes.

most music that falls under any subcategory of rock has a hint of rebellion of some sorts. in the '80s there were plenty of metal songs that dealt with parents who won't let kids rock (we're not gonna take it; parental guidance - judas priest), another brick in the wall by pink floyd has those elements, and even people as lame as dj jazzy jeff had "parents just don't understand." i think the '90s music just went about it in a more self-absorbed and depressing way, which is a little more destructive than the way rock music went about things (i.e. kids distracted themselves by having fun rather than wallowing in their own sorrow.) there's a chapter in chuck klosterman's book fargo rock city on his theory on why the music changed having to do with sociopolitical reasons, but i don't think in the '80s and '90s teenagers were really into politics the way i imagine they are today (and i say "imagine" because i'm more into politics now so i can't imagine kids aren't upset about what's going on, but i don't know enough teenagers to know whether that's just my theory or not.)

anyway, i guess that's a long way of saying no. i don't really know anyone who ran away or let things depress them to that point. the school shooting crowd was more late '90s post grunge, and marilyn manson is usually cited as a cause for that type of behavior more often (or at all) than nirvana or pearl jam. not dissing your theory - i'm sure there are people who felt part of a lost generation, but i have a feeling every generation has a few of those.

"guns don't kill people, pearl jam does."

i was about 11-12 years old during the first years of the '90s and i listened to nirvana, alice in chains, soundgarden, pearl jam, etc... but also to mc hammer and guns n' roses. :p

i like music

No one cares.

hayden ---- pearl jam don't allow others to viedo them etc, bootleg concerts etc, because they want to be in control of their image and their sound, imagine artists wanting to control their own outcome how tragic and sellout like they are. i don't buy into any of these sell out bullshit arguments, it is all a load of crap. like laila i like music, i like music that i think is good. i don't care if they are on a major label or are completely self sufficient, if i like the music i will buy it.

and also the whole seattle scene whatever it happen(ed) to be was not a new thing. all of that style of music was happening in australia in the late 70s all the way through the 80s. http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/music_...s/s1389374.htm

this doco is definately worth a listen if people want to know what was happening in places elsewhere before seattle...

Have control of their image and sound and rip you off for it.

They did when they played with Pearl Jam in 2000...well Lee and Steve did because Thurston and Kim left when her mom was in that car accident or whatever. Lee busted out Genetic and they played a great version of Parting Ways which I assume you can find on Soulseek or something. I got it off Napster back then.

But seriously people are going to get a little defensive if you blatantly bash a band that they love. It's cool if you don't like a band but.....whatever. I love you guys. Party at my place?

If by ripped off you mean, that i feel ripped off and am not willing to pay for their music and concerts. NO. and if you mean that the albums here in aus are generally au$25 when everything else is au$30. NO. i don't feel ripped off at all, in fact i am quite happy to give my money to pearl jam. $25 is a small price to pay for years of listening pleasure, sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

when is the party krastian

i was only in 1st grade during the grunge movement

don't believe the hype, you are a lucky one

I'm thinking Friday night. I'll probably order the kegs tonight or tomorrow morning.

I don't get it. Any of it. None of it makes sense to me.

Although I will say, putting a space between every sentence makes it a lot easier to read.

Don't you think?

Gives it that bullet point feeling.

Which is a lovely feeling.

Anyway, I don't think teenage angst is a new thing to some stoners from America.

I think it makes a lot of money everywhere in the world.

C'mon, we were all teenagers once.

We know what a load of self-indulged nonsenses they are.

(No offence to any teenagers reading, you understand.)

But I think you start getting old when you start getting nostalgic for 'scenes' that were probably contrived to sell records.

But Pearl Jam and Nirvana mean absolutely nothing to me.

Nothing.

Less than nothing, they're just some whining Americans.

Kurt was an OK lyricist.

But it's all about the Fall for me.

Wow.

This experiment in spaces between words has been fun.

I'm glad you've all been here to experience this with me.

Thus ends this post.

I still remeber my friend giving me a tape of Nirvana's ''Bleach'' in the summer of 89.I thought it was crap apart from ''About a girl''.Gosh,those were the days!New Christs,Crime and City solution,Loop,Spacemen 3 and the first time i had heard the Pixies' ''Tame''.

didn't Billy Corgan write 1979 about that generation of teenagers, the kids that were comming to their shows at the time, most of them were born in 1979. and they looked like they were having a really great childhood/adolesance, which i guess he didn't.

even if there was a genuine movement, it died the moment kurt loder announced cobain's suicide..

grunge was great for the little while it lasted, and i feel lucky to be around and involved at the time..

ps--> i don't *miss* those days.. i prefer to remember them, not try to relive them over again..
(hint hint)