Utah will do that to you. I lived in Sandy from '77 - '86 and it fucked me up for life!!!



on topic: track marks are never sexy. I still wonder why so many people have "apparently" slept with Courtney. I'd have to wear a full body condom.

Everyone always has a go at him and I have no idea why. No one ever tells you why they think hes a prick. He always seems really nice. I don't know where this idea of him being an egotistical dick comes from!

He's self centered, jealous of everyone better than him, took so much control over the Pumpkins, to the contest of the other members, takes almost all the credit for them, blames others for the break up, bagged on Pavement (claiming that you don't fall in love with pavements music, you fall in love to the pumpkins music) had something against Kurt Cobain and Nirvana (granted, Pumpkins were more skilled and got less credit). In just seems like he was doing it all for fame and fortune. Basically, he's a sell out.

When you got as close to the Pumpkins as I did, you realise what an asshole he is, but to those who don't know much about them he seems alright. It's just a coincidence he writes good songs.



Oh yeah and his fucking voice.
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH

So you aren't a fan? dispite the name?

What do you mean "got as close" have you meet them/do you know them?

fart-sniffer Corrigan just flat out sucked. his first record is a jane's addiction rip off to the extreme. Smashing Pumpkins are the DEF LEPPARD of "alternative"
look at him.

Ah let that shit die
And find out the new goal

Im sorry but 'Siamese Dream' Rocks! just a beautiful, majestic record. Okay Mellon Collie and Machina may be a tad overblown (but both have some killer tracks on them). Adore is an amazing album too.

Rob Instigator I dont really hear the Janes Addiction so much in Gish, but thats just me.

Billy and the Pumpkins will always have a special place in my heart because it was the first band I really ever loved. The Pumpkins lead me on to discovering 90's Alternative Music and from there on I discovered Sonic Youth, who in turn opened up a whole world of new music which has since filled up my collection.

*checks calendar to see what the date is today*

Quiet Riot will forever hold a place in my heart as they were the first band I ever really loved buyt that does not change the fact that theiy are shit.

so are the pumpkins

"It may be bleak but this music is really getting to the crowd." - Lisa Simpson
"ahh, making teenager's depressed is like shooting fish in a barrell." - Bart Simpson in reference to the pumpkins

that picture is 2 years old.

this is more recent:

(More4 documentary on Courtney from last September)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf_alMDj0YE

and this:

(Courtney Love on The Russell Brand Show a couple of months ago. Druggie tabloid sluts unite? Hated & Hated-er? pick your subtitle.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8AFhRIUPjI

how old is this?

I have heard it from a good authority that that's true.

I really like hole. I really like pretty on the inside, live through this, and even about half of celebrity skin.

I liked mono.

I think courtney was cool as shit until her hubby died, and then she went absolutely nuts from the drugs and ambition.

I have heard from good authority that she was "nuts" from age 10 at least.

I'd hit young courtney though.

Yeah

As it said on a recent (?) document I saw...
Something about Courtney, in a high school setting, being the snobby butch girl in the back of the classroom who bitched about the cheerleaders but, at heart, really wanted to be one.

I don't think so. I used to think so, but I got my girlfriend "dirty blonde" or whatever for Christmas and all her writing and poetry and stupid teen angst scribblings are pretty inspiring.

I think she's crazy, but I honestly believe that everything she does she tries to do with integrity. For example: In Dirty Blonde she apologizes for releasing Kurt's journals, and puts it down as a mistake brought on by her disgust at the idol worship of him.

I think she really believes that's why she did it. Yeah, she wants to be famous, but I don't think she thinks she's compromising her morals.

1996? 97?

There are much more recent pictures of Courtney with her tits out if you want to see them. She posed nude for last month's(?) issue of Pop magazine...